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Super-mega-lol at $20/night as bar costs. Maybe if you and your date have a drink each.


I live in Gainesville, Fl which is pretty much the cheapest place to live and drink, and $20 is still the norm. $4 cover + 3 beers x $4.00 a piece + $4 tip = $20. Now, recently I found a good bar without a cover charge and if I drink straight Old Milwaukee then I can do 4 x $2.00 + $4.00 tip = $12.00. Even so, doing this once a week is about $48.00/month which is more than the OP paid in food costs per a month.


3 Beers = Getting Trashed?


Hey, I'm your stereotypical thin and tall, nerdy hacker. However, when my bi-monthly stipend allows me, I will indulge a whiskey on the rocks and build my tolerance :)


This depends a lot on where you live.


Seriously man I don't even know how far can 20 bucks take you. How much you're goin to tip the waitress? 2 bucks?


hell yeah 2 bucks, what was she expecting?


For a tipped waitress, not at a fancy place, the federal minimum wage is $2.13/hr.


No. Actually, it varies by state. I have worked as a pizza delivery "expert" in three different states and as a restaurant slave in five; basically, employers get away with paying people as little as possible, regardless of their "tips". Most servers don't claim their tips (for tax purposes) thinking that doing so will "help" them. But in actuality it actually harms them.

No matter how "noble" a diner might feel in tipping his or her server, it basically amounts to nothing, especially when she splits her tip with the rest of her co-workers.

The unfortunate fact of this circumstance is that most "tipped" workers earn sub-minimum wages. There would not be an illegal immigration problem regarding restaurant workers if it were any other case. But most Americans are fat, lazy, oblivious and don't care.

So. The next time you go out to eat, especially if it's a large nationalized chain (like Denny's or McD's) take a look around at how many of your fellow diners speak Spanish. Look at your hostess/cashier who is making federal minimum wage without tips . . . then look at the restaurant and kitchen workers who are serving you, and decide just how "valuable" it is to go out to eat. Don't pat yourself too much on the back for being a fan of capitalism.




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