Confirmed. It broke my SO's ability to do online banking yesterday and I was (as usual) called in as tech support.

I just assumed Java was out of date (again) and was surprised to see it still blacklisted after updating to latest version.

There's no part of the UI saying "We've permanently blocked all of Java by default". Even if you agree with the developer's ideological stance here (which you very well may not), the UX part of the job is completely botched.

There should be a "plugin" icon in the address bar, showing you that java has been blocked (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6590650)

Pressing on that icon should allow you to run java once, or allow if forever for that site.

If the icon doesn't appear, I think you should file a bug on bugzilla.

You know those big, yellow bars that browser and websites tends to come up with when they want to be 100% certain that the user notices something is up?

I've yet to see a single non-technical user even notice or react to its presence once. I see it instantly and can't understand why it doesn't alert or annoy them, but to them, it's just not there.

In light of that sort of behaviour, adding a subtle icon to the location bar is meaningless. Heck, adding anything to the location bar is meaningless if the intent is to communicate with the user; most users never look there.

So yeah. If that's Mozilla's stance, they will find out that nobody's going to notice. I certainly didn't see it. That is effectively dead code which they've written.

So, with any luck, either the web developers will fix their websites or, one can dream, Oracle will actually start to pay attention to security :)

Oh interesting - hard to keep track of which version Firefox is up to these days. They should really swap to a system like Ubuntu's - using the date for the version number.

It was released over a month ago too. Has it had any effect on Firefox's market-share? Especially in enterprise? It's a pretty decent test bed for understanding how users react to these kinds of changes. If they just accept them and adapt when forced it shows that we can be more proactive in moving users to better yet incompatible software?

> It was released over a month ago too. Has it had any effect on Firefox's market-share?

No, the change went live Friday: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914690#c20

That would (and probably does, with Ubuntu) annoy people who don't use the Gregorian calendar.

out of curiosity, who isn't on Gregorian calendar for everyday usage nowadays? The only thing I can think of is that for official documents Japan uses the emperor-year, but the months stay the same

Thailand isn't AFAIR. Look at the Thai Railways website ( http://www.railway.co.th/home/default.asp?lenguage=Eng ), you can book tickets until 21/12/2556 )

a few countries use buddhist calendar variations[0], but I don't think there is anyone using the julian calendar left (well, mount athos republic is one but I wouldn't count it)

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_Era