> Come on, java starts up fast enough and the memory usage can be set
Yeah it can be adjusted, on the other hand you have a language that just works.
Starts instantly and memory usage is bounded by usage, not guesstimate of how much the JVM will need.
> Really, without some fat framework doing all kinds of initialization stuff, java code starts up practically instantly
Have you many java projects that didn't use some fat framework?
Good for you if you did, but 100% of java project I had the displeasure of touching were huge mess with deprecated frameworks on ancient java versions.
Yeah it can be adjusted, on the other hand you have a language that just works. Starts instantly and memory usage is bounded by usage, not guesstimate of how much the JVM will need.
> Really, without some fat framework doing all kinds of initialization stuff, java code starts up practically instantly
Have you many java projects that didn't use some fat framework? Good for you if you did, but 100% of java project I had the displeasure of touching were huge mess with deprecated frameworks on ancient java versions.