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> I am more than willing to listen. You seem to be the one who ignores words.

You have, here, changed the subject and disregarded reality and projected what-about on me as rhetoric, and even on this comment are motte-and-bailey-ing:

> I never claimed the J6 crowd to be non-violent?

I started by introducing them as an example of a thing where failing to see that they were violent and dangerous was a sign of having a problem. You reacted explosively. You what-about-ed with Babbit. You deflected, you tried to diminish the riot, you claimed there were no firearms. You have a problem.

I maintain that your own words:

  And Facism starts with civilians who act as enforcers and intimidators, not with the police. Hitler’s brown shirts and Mussolini's black shirts elevated the Facists to power.
describe the J6 crowd, who are your civilians acting as enforcers and intimidators.

I could also add:

  The SS came afterwords.
Today is 5 years later than J6.

> They did not systematically intimidate fellow citizens nation wide while hiding behind masks.

If you bothered to watch that video, you'd see many of them were behind masks.

If you'd bothered to watch the video of (or indeed still pictures from just before) the, to use your word, "murder", of Reese Good, you'd see she wasn't.

ICE however, do operate nationwide and do frequently wear masks. These days, anyway. They didn't used to feel the need to break their own rules. They didn't used to be the villains, according to not only "the left" but also other law enforcement.

I really should be going to bed rather than wasting the effort to write this down, but I guess the impending risk of the end of the world is weighing heavily on me.



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