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Both Nokia (Finland) and Ericsson (Sweden) are great european alternatives. There is no need to reinvent the wheel in every EU country.


Both Nokia and Ericsson have substantial Blackrock and Vanguard investment.


Completely irrelevant. What matters it that the company itself is in a place where the EU/Germany can have oversight and control over it.


Blackrock and Vanguard own surprisingly large portions of Rheinmetall, Siemens, Airbus, SAP and other German government/defense/security contractors. If avoiding their investments is the goal, there’s a lot of work to do.


blackrock and vanguard do index funds, yeah? They have substantial investments in everything on the market that's doing well enough to get on indexes. I don't see how you can avoid that?


Of course, that's the whole plan. The thing about index funds people don't see is they're giving away the voting rights to institutions controlled by who knows...


Both Nokia and Ericson are owned over 10% by Blackrock+Vanguard




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