How can people be so fucking stupid that they want to be coy about recreating the most shameful atrocities in human history? Teenage idiots a few years removed without any understanding of the world beyond their nose and brains turned to putrid rot.
The direction that right wing reactionaries are taking the world in could not possibly be more disgusting and pathetic.
The systemic white genocide isn't really a thing. Sure, there is political violence against whites in Africa, but South Africa ain't anywhere near the worst offender there, and the rate of violence there is comparable to the rate of political violence against LGBT in the US, so if you're going to call the political violence in South Africa white genocide, you shouldn't object to calling Musk genocidal for his transphobic views.
More to the point, though, even talking about it as a genocide is really about cheapening the definition of genocide and denying the existence of problems that don't affect one or the community one lives in by drawing false equivalencies.
Genocide does not have to involve violence. I'm not even talking about the whites in Africa.
LGB and trans are different things. Can you provide your source for "comparable to the rate of political violence against LGBT in the US"? Genuinely interested to see, I'm not aware of any widespread violence against LGBT in US.
The white population percentage is decreasing in almost every white country.
In Britain, British are the minority in one in four schools. At current trend, whites will be minorities in their countries in the next few decades.
In Germany, Germans make up 74% of the population.
In France, it's about 63%.
And those are on the downtrend. They will continue to decrease. What is it if not white genocide?
How do you even measure that? What counts as French?
(I'm reminded of this from the first page of a famous novel: La race, ce que t’appelles comme ça, c’est seulement ce grand ramassis de miteux dans mon genre, chassieux, puceux, transis, qui ont échoué ici poursuivis par la faim, la peste, les tumeurs et le froid, venus vaincus des quatre coins du monde. Ils ne pouvaient pas aller plus loin à cause de la mer. C’est ça la France et puis c’est ça les Français.)
Dude you do you understand how much intra-European racism has existed from the dawn of time? How many factors within a single insular "ethnostate" people still found a way to latch onto to get their tribal jollies off on like religion and class?
Virtually nothing about them do we understand as having been in any way distinguishable from others around them in their society and yet they were persecuted for hundreds of years.
It's such a stupid instinct in people, grow out of it.
This is pointless, can lead a horse to water and all that. I'm going to stop responding as HN is the one place on the internet I try to get away from all the mindless ragebait.
Genocide is not population migrations and cultural assimilation.
White Europeans came to the Americas and went to war, violently enslaving and slaughtering millions upon millions of indigenous people.
That is genocide.
Nazis forcefully rounded up Jews and shoved them into concentration camps, slaughtering them in an industrial fashion by the millions.
That is genocide.
Pol Pot took 1 in 4 of his citizens and KILLED them. That is genocide.
You can't just redefine words to make your non-issue seem like a grave problem, because it is nothing of the sort, otherwise, of course, you wouldn't feel the need to represent it as something that it isn't.
This is amazing, not one of the three points you yourself choice to cite apply in any way to the current situation. You could try to twist their meanings, really torture those words, squint to the point of blindness, and it's still just laughably incompatible with reality.
Yet somehow, you think, "Yesss, this is right on, this describes my reality."
Jesus Christ man, this is just tragic.
> 1. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
> 2. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
> As well as the mental element:
> A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such";
Since you claim this is happening, I ask you to provide a single example of a European government "imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group." If you're going to try to claim that promoting immigration counts as that, please explain how having a neighbor of the wrong ethnicity stops you from having children, because that is what "prevent[ing] births" actually means.
Sure. Unaffordable housing. People refrain from having kids because they are unable to afford a house to start a family in, and often resort to living with their parents or sharing a house with multiple roommates.
Millions of foreigners will increase the price of housing. They have to live somewhere.
Another way is wage suppression. By importing millions of foreigners, it drives the labour wages down as now they have to compete with others. This means that they may not be able to afford to start a family, and makes single income family unrealistic.
I have no problem with having neighbour of a different ethnicity. I interact with other ethnicities daily, and they are great people. My problem is with MASS immigration.
Why is it okay to talk about putting out the fire burning our house down and not about how our gasoline canisters are so cold and in desperate need of a fire?
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If you could be proud of your position you wouldn't need to be coy, understand that.
That is if you're not just some bot. What a depressing world.
Yes I assume that commenters on the internet that go around parroting racist talking points are either malicious or bots. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're a bot.
Follow your train of thinking to it's logical conclusion, if you dare. What course of action do you propose white europeans and white americans, whatever "white" happens to mean at this exact point in history, should do to rectify the "problem" of too many undesirables sharing our neighborhoods?
The only one parroting racist points here is you, being against the white people.
I will only speak for Europeans, saying white Europeans is redundant btw.
It's simple, to rectify the problem: You stop immigration from non-European nations. You deport those with a criminal history (yeah, there's a lot of them). You deport those that are not a net positive on the economy and take welfare. You don't extend visas for non-skilled labour (e.g taxis, uber eats). Then anyone who fails to assimilate also gets deported.
That's my logical conclusion. Why don't we follow the current way/your way? European population continues to decrease, while we import millions of foreigners. Eventually, Europeans die out. Genocide.
We've banned this account for using HN overwhelmingly for political battle. Regardless of your politics, we don't allow that because it's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.
The white population percentage is decreasing in almost every white country. In Britain, British are the minority in one in four schools. At current trend, whites will be minorities in their countries in the next few decades.
White people in these countries are, on average, more educated and have better access to contraceptives and abortifacients. These countries also have strong women's rights and are currently going through shaky times where many are concerned about economy and the future (climate change). In America, especially, since the costs for birth and childcare are just incomprehensible.
This is result of a radical change in culture over the past 100 years from women being properly to fully-fledged humans who are allowed the same careers as men and the ability to say "no". Europe still had countries where raping your spouse was not a crime in the 90s.
On top of that, many men are becoming politically incompatible to women. Figureheads like Andrew Tate spread brain rot that men are owed relationships and encourage that they demonstrate the worst concepts of masculinity imaginable. So gen-z and onwards have a disproportionate number of women outright repulsed by the men on offer.
So white women are increasingly pursuing happiness through careers and friends and hobbies instead. They're not dating men they don't want. And they're not having kids until they feel ready and/or safe, if they ever want to.
Other minorities tend to be less educated, have worse access to required medical care, or still have social pressures being applied to them / differences in culture. So they have more children.
What would you do? Force them into marriages they don't want and impregnate them against their will? This is how freedom works.
Replacing white people with foreigners is basic human rights?
If the population is decreasing, then let it. There will be a new equillibrium where people are repopulating at replacement rate, just lower than current population. But if we continue to import millions of foreign people, that equillibrium will never be found as the country is slowly destroyed.
> many men are becoming politically incompatible to women
It's actually women that are becoming super liberal. Men are more even more liberal now than they were 50 years ago.
> Figureheads like Andrew Tate spread brain rot that men are owed relationships
Yeah I don't think he ever said anything of that sort. I don't like him and I find him immoral, but I don't believe he is the problem here.
> encourage that they demonstrate the worst concepts of masculinity imaginable
That's untrue. Women seek leaders and strong men.
> So white women are increasingly pursuing happiness through careers and friends and hobbies instead
Anti-depressant use in white women is at it's highest, and I think they are the number one consumer? So doesn't seem like that pursuit of happiness is working out for them.
> And they're not having kids until they feel ready
True, by the time they want to have kids they are too old. A lot of them don't realize there's a biological clock.
> What would you do? Force them into marriages they don't want and impregnate them against their will? This is how freedom works.
Stop importing foreigners to replace them? If the population decreases, then let it.
Genocide usually occurs against a certain group of people, "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". White, or Europeans, are an ethnical and racial group.
> I'm left not understanding your point then. I should be afraid because humans with one shade of skin are populating faster than humans with another?
My point is that the native people of Europe, are being systematically replaced with foreign people. Conditions are being put on Europeans where births are reduced and are instead being replaced by another group.
Even related twitter threads, do you want interracial hatred to be increased?
Here's why it should be banned, because it leads to this shit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
How can people be so fucking stupid that they want to be coy about recreating the most shameful atrocities in human history? Teenage idiots a few years removed without any understanding of the world beyond their nose and brains turned to putrid rot.
The direction that right wing reactionaries are taking the world in could not possibly be more disgusting and pathetic.