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They are breaking down the federal government intentionally. DOGE was never going to hit their goals, they were impossible to hit. The goals were just cover to take full control over anything they can get their hands on.

> Even my die-hard Republican distant relatives are suddenly shocked because programs they benefited from are being cut. They thought they voted for something different.

They voted for others to be hurt and to lose benefits, not their “in group.” Surprise surprise, they are considered the waste by those they voted for.



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> DOGE has been about fighting corruption and reducing wasteful spending

It absolutely staggers me that anyone can still say this with a straight face. I will ask this, though: as part of the DOGE fight against corruption and wasteful spending how many of Elon Musk's government contracts and subsidies have been cut?


Also ~12K IRS workers (7x per head ROI) and inspectors general (who actually get results and are fully accountable) have been cut. And our already bloated military budget is increasing to $1 trillion without an eye being batted. DOGE is theatre.


The Verge: Elon Musk's DOGE figured out one thing: if you control the computers, you control everything. - https://youtube.com/shorts/XSKXIUuDV1c

The Moving Goal Posts in Musk’s DOGE Cuts: Why Elon Musk and his team have struggled to make the spending cuts they promised - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/politics/elon-musk-dog... | https://archive.today/GPDNY - April 14th, 2025

Elon Musk dramatically lowers his DOGE spending cut targets (again) - https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/elon-mus... - April 11th, 2025

See How Government Spending Is Up Even as Musk Touts Savings: Musk team’s $150 billion in savings barely dents $6.8 trillion in spending largely on autopilot, WSJ analysis finds - https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-doge-government-sp... | https://archive.today/DGGhX - April 11th, 2025

"A system’s function or purpose is not necessarily spoken, written, or expressed explicitly, except through the operation of the system. The best way to deduce the system’s purpose is to watch for a while to see how the system behaves. Purposes are deduced from behavior, not from rhetoric or stated goals.” —- Donella Meadows


> "A system’s function or purpose is not necessarily spoken, written, or expressed explicitly, except through the operation of the system. The best way to deduce the system’s purpose is to watch for a while to see how the system behaves. Purposes are deduced from behavior, not from rhetoric or stated goals.” —- Donella Meadows

The purpose of a system is what it does.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...


Elon Musk Decimated the Government and Saved Almost Nothing - https://jacobin.com/2025/04/musk-doge-savings-austerity-spen... - April 17th, 2025


There is no in-group and out-group, there is only Trump.


A comment has been deported to El Salvador, in its place

Trump in Nevada: 'I Love the Poorly Educated' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0


I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but let's not take things out of context, he clearly seems to mean it in a "I want everyone" sense here, rather than just the poorly educated specifically.


His statements were of inclusion into a set of suckers, he was only cheering of the relative sizes of those that vote for him. I understand what you are saying, and this isn't it.




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