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Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine.

https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...



Note that all the replies to this have conveniently steered the conversation into fighting over the Israel-Palestine war and gotten us to not talk about the actual point, that FB very credibly worked alongside the US gov't to suppress what Americans saw about the war on social media, lots of times suppressing actual journalists with press vests who were reporting from within Gaza at a time when formal press were banned by Israel from entering Gaza (meaning reliance on the ones already inside was crucial)


This paper seems to mainly suggest that the suppression is happening on the internal platforms that Meta's employees and content-moderators use, for discussions, rather than that they're censoring what I would see an an end user?


Yes, that is the mechanism of how the suppression is pushed internally. For details of the actual suppression, see these reports / documentaries:

- https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmnQhEQIjKc

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12btf2Oq820

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeaJJU2zHh8 (haven't read this one, but it's from the BBC. For more details on how the BBC restricts Palestine content, see this piece: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civil-war-gaza-israel-bia...)


You're right, this report isn't about the actual censorship of end-user content, but that was also quite widespread. Zuck even himself admitted how the US government would pressure them to censor certain things, but he discussed it in the context of COVID. Similar things happened about Israel-Palestine as well


Americans are one of the most, if not the most, propagandized populations on the planet, and the worst part is a large cohort of them fully believe they aren’t.


Social media has democratized propaganda.

Political messages often come from ostensibly small, independent outlets now - outlets whose incentives are no better than those of governments.

A show might be hosted by a couple teenagers in hoodies, but if the hosts are audience-captured, or supported by powerful interests, or just hold strong, irrational views, it's still just bad propaganda.


>Social media has democratized propaganda.

I find this sentence very wrong since the corporations or algorithms are not really under democratic controll.

You even continue to implicate that small creators are blown out of (democratic) proportion.


  the corporations or algorithms are not really under democratic control
That is true. Social media is democratic only to a point. If it were truly representative of the general public, it might be an improvement (or less sensational, at least).

Re: small creators. There are many creators who seem small - like Joe Rogan - but actually operate on a scale that places intense pressures on them. People tend to give more trust to 'influencers' than they should because they seem relatable.


For what it's worth, Americans still have access to opposing viewpoints. You can view Press TV, Russia Today, etc. Authoritarian states will ban completely access to news it doesn't want its population to read


Don't forget the Germans.


... changes what exactly? Certainly not the required ignorance to stay in your propaganda sphere.


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Some more information about ngo-monitor:

> NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO (non-governmental organisation) activity from a pro-Israel perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor


Unfortunately Wikipedia is no longer a reliable neutral source on this issue:

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/editing-hate-how-anti-i...


If it were “left wing” would you have provided the reference?


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I'm referring to Israel's invasion of Palestine, which in this specific instance started on October 9, 2023 or so, and resulted in the total destruction of Gaza, and the direct killing of 60,000, and the indirect killing of possibly 300,000.

This is the invasion that had more bombs dropped on Gazan civilians than were dropped in the entire Afghanistan war. And one in which Israeli snipers repeatedly shot and killed children, doctors, and journalists.

I was not specifically referring to Israel's 17 year blockade of Gaza, during which it destroyed their airport, port, and control the water supply and electricity, which it has currently cut off, a severe war crime.

Nor am I specifically referring to Israel's invasion of the West Bank, currently happening, where Israel has recently stolen more land than all the land it stole since the Oslo accords.

Nor am I specifically referring to Israel's brutal domination of Palestine since its invasion in 1948, during which European refugees drove 750,000 native Palestinians from their homes, stealing their land and massacring over 15,000 in a series of brutal attacks.


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Here's are some references for you.

Children and doctors: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/09/opinion/gaza-...

Press: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/1-year-of-gaza-genocide/1-year-of-g...

All of these are easy to discover with a simple Google search. I encourage you to break out of the bubble you appear to be in.


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You sound so angry and determined to prove this guy wrong. Can you change your mind about this issue?


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Yes, the palestinians or hamas are all bloodthirsty jihadist death cult followers and their actions have nothing to do with their explusions, the occupation and everyday humiliation in their existence.


Thank you, well said.


who are you affiliated with?



You mean you’re on Israel’s side? UN Watch is not impartial at all :D

The Times of Israel describe them as “A prominent pro-Israel lobbying group at the United Nations”.

They’re not really hiding it either. All sources referenced by UN Watch to “debunk” the claims (i.e. in your linked article), are Israeli or American.

But whatever, I don’t think we can agree on much about this conflict anyway. Hope you have a nice sunday anyway.


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even if the numbers were exaggerated by 90% (they're not) it would still be a humanitarian disaster


Oh it is an occupation. Here is an Amnesty report from 2017 on the topic. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-o...

Good job claiming blood libel: I have never spoken about judaism, only about Israel' evil and brutal war crimes, occupation, and genocide.

With regard to the numbers reported by the Gazan Ministry of Health, here is an article that describes how the count is the most conservative possible count https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/how-gaza-health-ministry-coun...

To go into more detail here, I recommend also reading https://data.techforpalestine.org/updates/gaza-ministry-casu... and https://dataactivists.org/estimating_death_toll_of_war_on_ga...


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Can you send an article from a neutral party for that? For the life of me I can't find one, could've sworn there were a few last year


The modus operandi of zionists is to use their propaganda to deflect from the facts that make Israel indefensible e.g. the fact that israel has systematically destroyed Gaza's health care system.

https://news.un.org/en/audio/2024/10/1156281 - "Israel has ‘concerted policy to destroy Gaza healthcare system’: Independent UN report"




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