Yes, but we have a long track record of one overpromising and underdelivering, charging money for what doesn't yet exist; while the other released stuff on a minimal website with an associated blog post for fanfare, and actually (metaphorically) turned the world upsidedown, and only charges for what they actually deliver. Yes there's hype now, but that's how it began.

So I think people are less distrustful of Altman when he says "thousands of days".