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> Even (cis) men have "locker room talk," things you wouldn't say when around most women.

Dunno, if you can't say it around women, at all ever, then it probably doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I'd say you share raunchy stuff with people you know to not have a problem with it, and depending on what it is that might be your guy friends more often, sure. But I know men who are way more stuck up than some women I know, not even a contest. If I was in a big group of guys and there was the expressed or implied statement of "okay, since we're amongst heterosexual men only now, we can say certain things we normally can't say" I would just get out.

That's not a statement on the site OP posted, I just disagree that cis men say stuff amongst themselves they wouldn't around women, while homosexual or bisexual men would never do that. There's bigots and people who can actually own what they say anywhere, no group is purely saint or evil.



> I just disagree that cis men say stuff amongst themselves they wouldn't around women, while homosexual or bisexual men would never do that.

Nothing they said implied the 2nd part even slightly. And not because most homosexual and bisexual men are cis.


Same difference. What makes non-cis men special that they required specific exclusion from that sentence?


Sorry for any confusion - the parenthetical (cis) was meant to narrow my statement according to my specific first-hand experiences, not to imply that trans men don't do it. I can see how my wording implied that, though.




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