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You sound a lot like "kids these days!"

What applicable skills would someone writing a kernel driver gain from reciting a memory map? Abstractions exist for a reason.

The skill is in creating useful an performant abstractions.



The problem starts when the abstraction fails and you have to dive deeper, but no one taught you how to dive, only swim with a head above the water level. Those who can dive can also swim, it doesn't work the other way round, though.


And who is to say that the people writing Rust are worse at swimming than you are?


See, I read the parent post's point not as "abstractions are bad" but as "it's much better to be someone who doesn't need the abstraction, but chooses to use it". I have worked with a number of crappy embedded developers in my career. Somehow, the ones who are capable of going beneath the many levels of abstraction are always really, really good at their jobs.

So it's not that embedded Rust is bad. It's that developers who can't do their jobs without embedded Rust are usually very bad indeed. It's great when it's a choice. It's terrible when you lack the skills or perspective to work with what's under the hood.


> You sound a lot like "kids these days!"

Exactly! Kids like stonethrowaway with their C. Real engineers write their compilers in assembly.

(Less snarky, why stop at C, and not complain about even lower level stuff?)


> Real engineers write their compilers in assembly.

Not sure where this misconception comes from. The engineering department mostly relies on Verilog twiddling, shoddy Spice models, debugging prototype boards with poorly crimped jumper wires, charged capacitors scattered around with no adults in the room, and freshly minted junior EEs who forget spice models and Verilog hacks aren’t the real thing.

You have the wrong department. Software development is down the hall to the left. Those folks down there don’t even have an engineering degree.


In any case, you might like https://docs.rust-embedded.org/book/

I've recently done a bit of work on Rust in something like embedded systems. Only instead of real hardware, we are running our software on Zero Knowledge VMs, ie on math.




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