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The timeline of the election coincides with the development of the vaccines.

Moderna reported positive phase 3 trial results in November 2020. FDA’s review was completed in December and an emergency authorization was granted. The full trial results were published in medical journals a few months later, around the same time as Biden entered office.

So maybe it had nothing to do with Trump/Biden and simply was a reaction by YouTube to the proven efficacy of the new vaccines.



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What’s your specific beef with Moderna’s three-phase clinical trials?

The New England Journal of Medicine in February 2021 published Moderna’s results indicating 94% efficacy. Further studies confirmed it. If you know better than the reviewers at a leading medical journal, it would be interesting to know why you’re so qualified.


>Moderna’s results indicating 94% efficacy

Yet strangely every person I know vaccinated or not still got COVID. YouTube banned people for even simple observation like this.


Every person you know.

Anecdotes are worthless in a scientific setting, or literally any setting with the slightest amount of rigor. More often than not, we do not have anywhere near a representative sample in the people we know or hang around.


I got the Moderna vaccine in May 2021 and a booster in December that year.

The first time I got Covid was a year later, December 2022. Exactly as predicted by the vaccinations.

I don’t go around pretending that this anecdote is worth anything. That’s why companies like Moderna do clinical trials with 30,000 people.

Somehow lots of people whose experiences are slightly outside the median are convinced that everything is a lie. “Statistics are hard, let’s go shopping?”


That’s not a coincidence—they deliberately delayed reporting the trial results until after the election because they were worried that good news would help Trump.


Haven’t heard this conspiracy theory before.

So which is it: 1) The mRNA vaccine was rushed out without sufficient clinical trials; 2) The results from the clinical trials were delayed to hurt Trump.

You can’t have both you know. So far the far-right argument has been entirely based on scenario 1, but it’s certainly interesting to know that scenario 2 also exists for some people.


Here’s reporting from MIT Technology Review, a bastion of far-right conspiracy theories: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/19/1010646/campaign...

Operation Warp Speed was a signature effort of the Trump administration. As a result, the claim that the vaccine was being “rushed out without sufficient clinical trials” was made by just about all of Trump’s critics.


Nine months from formulating the vaccine to a successful Phase 3 trial is record speed. There’s no way the vaccine was held up to somehow politically hurt the president.

I’m a Trump critic and I was happy with the priority given to Operation Warp Speed. It’s the only thing he did right during the pandemic. But a lot of the MAGA crowd are anti-vaxxers, so he’s been trying to distance himself from the successful vaccine operation.


>But a lot of the MAGA crowd are anti-vaxxers, so he’s been trying to distance himself from the successful vaccine operation.

Exactly. Trump himself killed his own stance and delayed initatives that cost thousands of lives. Probably killed off a lot of his voter base to boot. if he managed to convince people to lockdown he may have still be president in 2020-2024.


The clinical trials were all done well before the election, and the FDA could have issued the emergency use authorizations in October, but they held off for a few weeks under the explicit political pressure discussed in the story I mentioned.

When it comes to “anti-vaxxers”, a lot of people, including both Biden and Harris, were outspokenly skeptical of any vaccine that would have been approved under a Trump administration (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/05/kamala-harris-trump...), so frankly this is largely an artifact of political polarization.




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