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no, I'm saying I believe in the free market. buy a product that meets your requirements. if you find it doesn't, return it for a refund. do a chargeback if they won't do a refund. you are entitled to a refund within 14 days.

https://www.termsfeed.com/blog/return-refund-laws-eu/#:~:tex...



The EU is a different beast entirely. People in the EU get a lot of rights that people in the US don't.

That said, one of the many many problems of the "free market" is that it depends on there being a company willing to leave huge stacks of money and power on the table.

Maybe some company could take a few customers from their competitors by offering great refunds and fair terms when no one else will, but why would they ever do that when they'll make far more money if they screw over their customers just like everyone else is doing? Sometimes, it will always be more profitable for companies to refuse to give consumers what they want, at which point it becomes impossible to vote with your wallet since there is no one to give your money to except those who are doing what you'd prefer to "vote" against.

Especially when companies are either colluding directly with each other or just looking for the company with the most oppressive and abusive polices/practices and copying what they do, your options drop off very very quickly. Even if you do manage to find a company that seems like it's good, it's just a matter of time until enshittification kicks in and the service degrades because ultimately, companies are all looking out for themselves and insist on endless growth and higher and higher profits so they all push to charge you as much as they possibly can while delivering as little as possible in return. It's a race to the bottom where you always lose.


all that freedom and you can't return a faulty product?


Long before we started keeping more of our citizens locked up behind bars than any other nation on the earth "all that freedom" has been mostly just advertising, but the free speech is pretty nice.


at least you guys have guns though! you know, in case the government makes laws that you don't like or it lets corporations take the piss.


Can't believe there's still people to think the free market actually exists


now imagine one where you have a right to return something that doesn't meet your needs within 14 days.


An absolute free market is a dangerous illusion.


Indeed, one run by corporate lobbying is much better.


Are you admitting that you only believe in a "free market" because the alternative is run by corporate lobbying. Not all regulation is subject to capture by default. It has taken a lot of work to erode the system enough.


do you think these are the only two options?

i pick option three: the current system.


Given this, your original response was pretty weird.




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