[edit: oh, you meant the parent comment is a strawman?]
Why? The parent comment says that you can choose to eat "proteins" in any way possible, from eating horrible soy to eating meat from animals raised in awesome conditions.
I argue that this is not really a useful statement (I want to say, it actually feels misleading and dishonest and that's why I reacted. OP writes about changing one's mind and absorbing new information, a prerequisite of this is to be honest with oneself - the thing that most vegetarian people, who weren't born like this, have already done because they had to to change their minds).
I do want to eat properly and that's what we are discussing. I point out that while the average person can realistically buy local, organic soy easily, one can't do so for meat from properly raised animals.
Of course I can choose to eat horrible soy (I guess? Not sure where I would find tofu made from it actually), like I can choose to eat horrible meat. But if we are to do things the proper way, neither of these options are good. Though eating horrible meat (which includes the horrible soy!) is the realistic option for meat because that's what scales.
(where "horrible meat" means "meat from animals who suffered")
The horrible soy is not even worth mentioning because it harms the pro-meat argument. Like, why even mention the horrible soy to the vegetarians? It's laughable.
Why? The parent comment says that you can choose to eat "proteins" in any way possible, from eating horrible soy to eating meat from animals raised in awesome conditions.
I argue that this is not really a useful statement (I want to say, it actually feels misleading and dishonest and that's why I reacted. OP writes about changing one's mind and absorbing new information, a prerequisite of this is to be honest with oneself - the thing that most vegetarian people, who weren't born like this, have already done because they had to to change their minds).
I do want to eat properly and that's what we are discussing. I point out that while the average person can realistically buy local, organic soy easily, one can't do so for meat from properly raised animals.
Of course I can choose to eat horrible soy (I guess? Not sure where I would find tofu made from it actually), like I can choose to eat horrible meat. But if we are to do things the proper way, neither of these options are good. Though eating horrible meat (which includes the horrible soy!) is the realistic option for meat because that's what scales.
(where "horrible meat" means "meat from animals who suffered")
The horrible soy is not even worth mentioning because it harms the pro-meat argument. Like, why even mention the horrible soy to the vegetarians? It's laughable.