> as already pointed out, most people have an unlocked door from the garage to the house
Not sure where you live, but every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage.
In the one house I lived in that had a security system, that garage-to-interior door was also wired into the system and arming it would treat it like an exterior door.
Having said that, I still wouldn't want random delivery people entering my garage without my knowledge.
> Not sure where you live, but every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage.
Likewise, but even if it's actually locked, no lock is impenetrable, and a closed garage provides a thief with the privacy to pick it at leisure or even break down the door. Burglary deterrence advice sometimes includes tips like adjusting your landscaping so your front door is visible from the street and locking gates to your back yard. Letting the thief into your garage thoroughly defeats the point of that...
Also, I keep stuff (bikes) in the garage that I don't want stolen.
This makes me feel like the whole thing is, in large part, meant as complementary product to security cameras. For example Ring cameras, oh so conveniently owned by Amazon.
Yeah I think people just aren't getting it and don't understand what all the data does and means. More importantly, I think they can't see that there are other options, which in some/many cases there realistically isn't (hacking your own solution doesn't count. Needs to be unskilled)
I've been thinking lately about how quickly the world has changed and I think it's a bit underappreciated. I mean cellphones only became a household item 20 years ago, smart phones about 15. Or closer to home, at least for me, generative models went from barely making small black and white human faces (Goodfellow invented GANs mid 2014) to being able to create some fucking good quality images on consumer hardware in a few minutes (not counting all the prompt engineering required. But unconditional is still pretty good). Not to mention that access to these things isn't homogeneously distributed and so rural and poorer regions tend to get thrown into the deep end rather than wade their way in. I think from that perspective a lot of drama makes sense. Especially when we're talking about how people are not very tech literate. Hell, I have a hard time convincing people in my CS PhD department that hate Facebook's spying to switch to Signal or even switch to FF (we see the same stuff here on HN. More excuses than explanations). If the "friction" (even if 90+% mental) is high among tech experts idk how novices can handle all this. At least with my family they're more willing to believe Facebook's app uses an always listening microphone rather than believe me when I explain that they can figure out you're friends and interested in gardening if you just stand next to someone or walk around with them for 30 minutes in the gardening section of Home Depot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (sorry, this took a tangent, but I know you think about some of these things too)
Maybe, but (and I say this as the author of an NVR [1]) security cameras only accomplish so much. It helps that in this case Amazon/etc. theoretically knows who opened your garage so with their cooperation (not a given), you should be able to match the video to the suspect, but even then it may not provide the expected standard of proof much less get your stuff back...
I think parent comment was saying the door exists, but many people leave it unlocked. I grew up leaving that garage-interior door open because that's where we put the litter box, at several different houses.
>every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage.
Sure, but I've probably locked it barely more than twice.
> Not sure where you live, but every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage.
I don't know if that would do much.
It's one thing to be sawing up a front door that is in plain sight of the street -- passer-bys might call the cops if they saw that.
But if you're doing it from inside a garage? You could shut the garage door and saw away. Nobody would report saw noises coming from a garage because that's super normal.
My in-laws have this, but mine, my parents, my siblings, my wife's siblings, and my neighbor all have a big window in that door. And none of them are ever locked.
How old are those houses? They probably are not compliant with current building codes[1], many places require your garage doors (and ceilings) to have higher fire resistance than the rest of the house. In my experience, fire-resistance correlates to sturdiness in doors.
1. I know it's a broad generalization, also location-dependant
Latest codes have backed off of that. Doors that can meet the old fire doors had closing springs set so strong the elderly couldn't open them (or couldn't get in with packages after getting it open)
I don't see anything in your comment that suggests the latest codes have backed from high fire resistance - which was the thrust of the comment you replied to (garage doors have become sturdier, and glass has low fire resistance)
Not sure where you live, but every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage.
In the one house I lived in that had a security system, that garage-to-interior door was also wired into the system and arming it would treat it like an exterior door.
Having said that, I still wouldn't want random delivery people entering my garage without my knowledge.