>Saying we won is a tacit admission that everything I'm talking about is true.

I'm fairly surprised to see this common format of internet-argument fallacy on HN! "You made X framing declaration, therefore you admit everything I said is true." It's pretty patently bad-faith and oversimplified.

All I can really say here is that I hope we can elevate beyond "left" vs "right". Elon is doing the same thing every other wannabe-populist does. Take the beacon light off of him, his riches, his flailing ego, and... sow division. Every single thing he's done for the past 4-8 weeks has been about doubling down on distractions, as he sells more TSLA, lol.

Why is the supposed "liberal tech guy" bumping fking shoulders with Ian Miles Chong on a regular basis? I mean, come on. Please, see it for what it is. Ego and populism, through and through and through. Exactly what I told my ex I was freaked out about when he floated this in March. At least Bezos had the sense to keep his hands off the Post.

We need class solidarity (, we desperately need ranked choice voting), and seeing Elon for who he is, would be a great place for us all to start.