Well there needs to be some kind of sea change, and my comment was just proposing some kind of workable solution to what I see in the employment market where employers have degree requirements.
most people are entering university for vocational reasons, not academic achievement. The vast majority of students are students for the sole purpose of career placement, no other reason.
The push by universities to extract as much (often tax payer funded) money pushing academic achievement, while ignoring the societal goal / desire of vocational education seems to if not the core, pretty close to the core of the problem we face with on this topic.
The idea of experience based degree's would start the shift that IMO is needed back to vocational studies and away from academic achievement
> my comment was just proposing some kind of workable solution to what I see in the employment market where employers have degree requirements
Again, it's no solution. Employers would not consider such honorary degrees to be equivalent to regular degrees.
> The vast majority of students are students for the sole purpose of career placement, no other reason.
Plenty of people study philosophy, despite having little direct applicability outside academia. That's not to say they're wasting their time and money.
> pushing academic achievement, while ignoring the societal goal / desire of vocational education
Do you mean to say there's a shortage of institutions that offer vocational training?
I'm confident you're right that they get less government funding.
> experience based degree's would start the shift that IMO is needed back to vocational studies and away from academic achievement
Academic degrees were never about vocational studies.
Vocational degrees exist, awarded by institutions which are not universities, but if I understand correctly they generally have little traction. This might not be true of every country though.
>>Employers would not consider such honorary degrees to be equivalent to regular degrees
I disgree, it is purely a checkbox for many organizations, a way to filter out people. Provided the degree is accredited it would resolve the primary issue I have with the current state of employment requirements
>>Plenty of people study philosophy
that was not my comment or statement, I am sure there are "plenty" but for more than 20 years now High Schools, parents, employers, the government, and the universities themselves has been telling students that path to vocational success is via the university system, and a 4 year degree program. Are you attempting to deny this reality?
>>Academic degrees were never about vocational studies.
Then High Schools, parents, employers, the government, and the universities need to stop selling the idea of vocational achievement via 4 year Academic study.
At some point perception becomes reality, and decades of selling Academia as de facto vocational study to the masses, has cut out and reduced actual vocational programs almost entirely from the educational landscape to the point that most K-12 schools do not even have vocational programs, it is General Education or College Prep, those are the 2 tracks, with Extreme pressure on students to go for the College Prep track.
most people are entering university for vocational reasons, not academic achievement. The vast majority of students are students for the sole purpose of career placement, no other reason.
The push by universities to extract as much (often tax payer funded) money pushing academic achievement, while ignoring the societal goal / desire of vocational education seems to if not the core, pretty close to the core of the problem we face with on this topic.
The idea of experience based degree's would start the shift that IMO is needed back to vocational studies and away from academic achievement