If it's easy to find a job why would I care if I'm laid off? Just get another job.

Because hiring people and paying them a salary is somehow hurting those people?

No but purposely forcing economic hardship on people when you're one of the most profitable entities on earth will always be a shitty thing. I'm sorry but treating workers like replaceable cogs is disgusting behavior and I'm not shocked that big tech routinely turns to anti-worker devices to enforce control.

Nobody is forcing anything to happen. People chose to work there. They get paid a HUGE amount of money. Now their projects ended or whatever.

What world do you live in? Suicide? Crazy talk.

I'm not sure the 3 version of your account is going to fare better than the last[0] if you don't find a better way to contribute to the community.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=matchbok

I like how the account is just nothing but attacking workers while supporting the rich, classic VC mindset.

Attacking? Nowhere did I attack anybody. Explaining what a layoff is not "attacking". If you are offended by market economics I suggest you get thicker skin.

Solid contribution!

Man if you don't understand how unemployment leads to suicide you are truly a privilege individual. I honestly envy you now.

AI isn't contributing to the layoffs though

It absolutely is. The funding for it, not the product itself.

> Would you rather them never hire them in the first place?

It does seem like a lot of people would prefer this, they way they react to every layoff announcement.

It would be better because it would create a more diverse work space where multiple employers complete for employees, instead of one company playing musical chairs with people

Having fewer jobs available would result in more employers? I'm not sure how.

A few companies get almost all investments. They start a lot of projects fast and close the ones that don’t work

If companies stuck to fewer projects, money would be invested in other companies focusing on specific products, you get a lot of companies and not the market concentration you got today (which is responsible according to few economists to a lot of the us labor market dysfunctions it is currently experiencing)

Last time I talked them they also wanted an NDA just to interview, which was just insulting and dumb so I kept my existing big tech job instead

Because you have to pay people more to do boring or evil work vs meaningful or exciting work

In my experience the pay difference was never that close that meaning and ethics played a role in the decision.

Cool exciting and meaningful science job: 200k

Big Tech surveillance capitalism job: 800k (at the low end)

The calculus has only been about affording housing and providing for the family.

800k at the low end? Big tech pays well, but that sort of comp is reserved for very senior folks.

Where do I get this cool exciting and meaningful science job paying $200k?

This is my experience too. I actually briefly took the cool exciting climate change related science job and then realized that I couldn’t actually support my family’s lifestyle on $160k so I left and went back to surveillance capitalism. I do feel guilt about that decision, but I like to imagine I’ll be able to go back to working on interesting and ethical things after my kids are out of the house.

Seems the pay is very different and thus is absolutely playing a role in the decision?

Yeah. This is part of why I wasn't excited to work at G after my first time there. It was very boring

This is one of the core spirits of open source

Open source is about sharing and forking, not collaboration.

Collaboration is a common pattern in larger projects but is uncommon in general

A PR, at best, is collaboration, not a transaction.

Of course. But the argument that the nature of FSD causes them to not pay attention.