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Fascinating read, thanks for submitting this.


Agreed, most "cloud" software slowly try to lock you in, only to lose it in a few years when they get sold, or shut shop, or don't get the next round of funding.

It's a pain, and I now wish we just have internet connected hard drives where we can save whatever we want.


“internet connected hard drives where we can save whatever we want.”

That’s how it should be. You have your data under your control and give companies access which you then can revoke whenever you wish.


Can you give more detail please?


Sure. TLDR People have different motivations. You don't need to "find a co-founder" in order to check some box in your application process. If you do feel the need to apply with a team, don't split the equity evenly and define a very clear leader. Also, Plan on most of your team just giving up if you are rejected (despite what they say today). I applied with friends who who I knew for a year AND had worked with on a few apps. I was surprised when they quit after we were rejected.

Your biggest problem is finding a product market fit and defining a customer. If you can do this you can certainly hire all the help you need.


>> Employees want to work 5-10 years max and end up with millions to retire peacefully while working in an intense environment which serves as the story of their accomplishment for the lifetime.

Nopes, founders want millions by (ideally) using technology to disrupt a market and gaining from the windfall.

VC want millions/billions by betting money on such founders.

They both agree to buy talent by promising employees a share of the windfall.

Employees don't start out thinking "hey I want millions, let me join this unknown company".

They usually start out "I need a good, well paying job where I do interesting work."

Edit: spelling


People get good well-paying jobs by not working at startups. Future money windfall is a very big component of choosing a startup.


I can appreciate how you feel, but the winner writes history. Out of curiosity, what was the name of the tech accelerator that you're referring to?


Red Hot Law Technology Accelerator in Atlanta, GA.

I've known of many others too. I'm sure Red Hot wasn't the first.


Why are people downvoting your question? Seems like a legit thing to ask.

I suspect HN behaves a little like how many folks treat their national army... you can't ask a question that may imply a bad decision during an important human/national event.

÷ "Why wasn't your system able to scale to 60 users during natural calamity?"

~ "How dare you question such a noble cause? Have you ever even worked with govt?" (Downvote)

÷ "Yes I have, we had systems in place that worked you know. Most states do."

~ (oh fuck, she knows what she's talking about) "States and municipals don't cooperate, so fuck off now"

So maybe, instead of attacking the OP, try answering the question directly, more honestly?

Make your points with logic and class people, not assholery.


because the answer is obvious, and someone already replied with it


Dude you seem to have a problem. Beating folks into one inch of their life looks to me a significant overreaction.

I understand your frustration, I've wanted to behave similarly many times in life, but actually doing it is a different thing altogether.


> Dude you seem to have a problem. Beating folks into one inch of their life looks to me a significant overreaction.

Without further articulation on the un-crossable line, this is by no means true. My brother is a bonafide, diagnosed psychopath, so I have much more experience than most in the subject. Sometimes such things are necessary.


Looks like a shitpost, by someone purporting to be a psychopath.


I'm wondering who the psychopath really was in that story...


Studies will also show that inducing and keeping them in coma is one of the foolproof ways to ensure a person never tells another lie over a period of 10 or 20 or 30 years.

Controlling or having a low calorie diet isn't a medical treatment [1], it's simply a choice an individual (in most cases) makes. They choose to not continue with the original choice after some time, so to club diet-control under 'medical treatment', and say that it doesn't work, is incorrect.

[1] https://www.wisconsin.edu/workers-compensation/coordinators/...

Edit, grammar.


This is a skill I want to develop. Could you give us the name of the book please?


I recommend Solution Selling or The New Solution Selling. I was an engineer with limited sales experience and it gave me a good base for enterprise sales.

But I'd advise you try your best to shortcut the long and complex sales cycle unless you have lots of upfront cash to burn.


I think parent is saying something similar to you, but you've just laid it out in more detail. They didn't say the other things you've mentioned don't matter. They said that the product can't be a scrappy MVP.


Perhaps. I understood 'the MVP needs to be in good shape in order to win and keep clients' as meaning 'in order to win (and keep) clients, you need a (good) MVP'.

I was objecting to the idea that you need an MVP at all to win clients (although obviously retaining them is a different story).


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