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The problem is that we already can provide an alternative, but we don't switch to them. Which might be even worse.


Exception


Northvolt, STMicroelectronics, Infineon, ASML itself, Arianespace, Thales, they all receive EU funding and support


Northvolt went bankrupt recently.


By that logic all EU companies receive EU funding.


Spotify perhaps?


Why would you think that?


Is it really such a pivot when they invested a lot in AI already?

They bought DeepMind in 2014 and always showed of a ton of AI research.


If I list you 10x many cases which failed, would you switch your opinion then?


You make it sound like security is a binary thing, which is not true.


> We don't want a world where only three old bearded guys can write a compiler or a physic engine.

Don't write your own OS does not mean do not contribute to something like the linux kernel.


I asked ChatGPT, gemini and both answered 3, with various levels of explainations. Was this a long time ago by any chance?


67% of the time it works all the time?


Which is not necessarily a good thing.


But not necessarily a bad thing either.

If everything else fails, I know I can still have two things to pay with: cash and crypto.


This is a strange viewpoint considering that crypto is 100% reliant on some of the most complicated and high-maintenance infrastructure ever built by man: the internet.

If "everything else fails" the internet has failed, and crypto will be worthless. Gold will probably still have some value, unless shit really hits the fan.


We’re talking about different “everything else fails” scenarios. Basically, I’m concerned about my bank accounts being frozen (happened with my Revolut account for example).


The solution for that is to have redundancy via multiple bank accounts, ideally in multiple countries.

Then nothing short of planning a serious terrorist act can get you kicked out of all accounts.


Is that really the case? Per https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/money-laundering-and-... you can be pretty much completely debanked for only a couple of SARs/STRs, and it doesn't seem particularly hard to have one filed against you.


Ah, yes, the classic 3-2-1 method: three accounts in two different countries, one of them being an offshore. Yeah, I’m doing all that (not the offshore part... at least not yet).


Are you a resident of multiple countries?


Don't have to be - fintechs like Revolut, Wise, N26 are based in different countries, but service customers in a decent chunk of Europe.


and you can get debanked from all of them in the same incident.


The "incident" has to be pretty severe for you to be debanked in multiple EU+UK countries. Little less than terrorism would do it (I was going to say coup attempt might, but the Catalan leaders who tried to illegally secede from Spain didn't get debanked, so probably not).


Remember that Germany considers not liking the Gaza holocaust to be terrorism, and has issued Schengen area bans against EU politicians for this crime.


Gold being the ultimate. Cash can be diluted and crypto has unlimited supply (via alt coins). Gold is backed by physics and minted in neutron stars!


Strictly speaking, directed energy is the ultimate. Both crypto and gold are both just embodiments of energy, gold being the physical embodiment (via mining and refinement) and crypto being the virtual embodiment.


Not really. Gold has no more energy than carbon per gram. E=MC^2. And total energy is unavailable. Carbon had more available chemical energy. (Why we can burn coal not gold).

Bitcoin doesn't store any energy.

Bitcoin is like a F1 car going around a track forever, with your name scribbled on it.


Both gold and bitcoin are a variant of "proof of wasted energy" or more euphemistically "proof of work". Why that makes it valuable is beyond me, but it isn't really a new thing considering the historic value of gold being much more than its utility as a material.


The 'value' in them is that they demonstrate that energy is currently so cheap and abundant to Us that we can waste it frivolously.

It's a sort-of flex, showing off, a demonstration of (energy) wealth. Humanities's peacock feathers.


Maybe I didn't explain it well, gold and bitcoin are the 'memory' of used energy, they are not energy sources themselves.

I think of them as representations of the idea that energy is (currently) so abundant and cheap that we can waste it on mining things like gold and crypto, a fundamentally ridiculous concept in terms of real actual human needs.

Once that stops being the case (when fossil fuel starts running out globally), the whole thing - cash, gold, crypto, stocks, bonds, property - everything falls apart.


Bitcoin isn’t valuable because of used energy. The energy here is just a way to limit the rate Bitcoin is produced, and to help prevent double spending.

Bitcoin is valuable because people accept that it’s valuable, same as with cash, gold, crypto, stocks, bonds, property. The price of an apple is $2 is because I offered it to you for $2 and you bought it.


Almost. Bitcoin energy use is a way to have a decentralised trust less network. If bitcoin was free to mine the most money would go to the most nodes. It would be proof of DDOS in a sense and would probably seize up pretty quick.

Gold is a bit different. You could stop mining it today entirely and you could still have a gold currency. Stop mining bitcoin and it all effectively disappears!


The people appreciate the value exactly because of used energy (entropy), if you want to rewrite Bitcoin history you are going to spend no less then it has boon spent. The limit of producing of bitcoins is not related to energy.


Yeah. I mean, people value the utility of it: it can be used to transfer value over the Internet, and you can’t steal it by changing values in the DB. PoW is just a means to an end here. I think we largely agree on that.


You could make eimrineCoin that's an exact clone of bitcoin, but it'd be extremely unlikely to reach a fraction of BTC's market cap, because others won't consider it valuable although it's mined with energy.


Gold has unlimited supply too (via alt metals, e.g., steel)


Periodic table enters the chat :). Touche tho.


A currency has to be accepted in order to perform its role.

Good luck buying groceries or paying the mortgage with Crypto.


Which is why I have a couple bank accounts. If these banks decide they don’t want to work with me anymore (happened a couple times already), or if they decide they don’t want to send money to, say, a particular country (hint hint), I’ll have crypto as a last resort.

(You conveniently left out “cash” from your reply. Cash. I’ll buy groceries with cash, if I can’t use my card.)


There are some stores that do accept BTC, but it is not widespread. It is mostly coffee shops though, not grocery stores.


And it varies from country to country. (In any case, I wouldn’t use BTC for everyday purchases – it’s too volatile, and transfers are too expensive. As long as we’re stuck with fiat-based economy, stablecoins are the way to go, IMO.)


there is invariably a vantage point at which non-fiat payments are accepted. this may be crypto, given that there is still infrastructure available for it to operate, but that's unlikely imo.


I already can't buy things I want with Mastercard and Visa


It's like a kitchen knife. Can be good or bad.


Correct in principle but not all that insightful because it's something almost universally true. "Fentanyl! Ads! Widespread surveillance! Can be good or bad".

You have to look at the reality. Crypto has been used overwhelmingly for scams and crime.


> Crypto has been used overwhelmingly for scams and crime.

So has regular currency.


The overwhelming use of regular currency is crime? Where?


There are transactions happening all the time in regular cash for weapons, drugs etc. Large banks have been found to be knowingly processing funds from terrorists, drugs dealers and have got fines. If you anti-war, you would also include the wars that are financed partly by the ability to print money.

These transactions while not the majority of transactions I would wager is far larger in terms of dollar value that the whole crypto ecosystem.

The reality is that criminals will find loop holes in a system and they will exploit it if it is worth exploiting. Many of the checks done in banks now impede transactions. I was buying a car (private seller) and I couldn't transfer the cash without going through a fraud check, even though I had signed the transaction with a card reader in the app. It turned a 30 minutes of test driving the vehicle and checking docs into 3 hours of wrangling on the phone. BTW I am not the only person having these problems with banks in the UK.

As for what crime we are referring to as well in this scenario needs clarifying as well. I suspect that most of crypto transactions are through darknet drug markets. These markets reduce the risk of violence to basically zero when purchasing drugs. While I am not one of these people that is pro-legalising all drugs, the reality is that people are going to buying them.


Wherever any consumer-level illegal drug transaction has happened, which is everywhere.


The overwhelming use of fiat in my town does not consist of buying and selling street pharmaceuticals.


> Today we have a huge oversupply of scientists, however there's too many of them to allow judging for potential, and many are not actually capable of dramatic impact.

Realistically speaking it's also much harder to achieve the same level of impact back then as most, not just low-hanging, fruits have been plucked.


> not just low-hanging, fruits have been plucked.

Won't this always be the case?

I mean, if you look back 50 years, they look like low-hanging fruits, but at the time, they weren't, only with the benefit of hindsight do they look like low-hanging fruits.

Similarly people in 50 years will say we had all the low-hanging fruits available today in subject/area/topic X, although we don't see them, as we don't have hindsight yet.


50 years? Nah

Like, these things seem obvious in hindsight even now.

You already have the whole Internet of data. You already have GPUs. All you need to do is just use the GPUs to feed the scraped (and maybe not-so-legally downloaded) data into some artificial neural network and you'll get a rather intelligent AI! How could one possibly think otherwise?


They look high hanging fruits when you haven't yet reached them.

They look low hanging fruits when you have risen above them.


This seems written to sound like a profound piece of wisdom, but I find it difficult to not interperet it as a very flowery way of saying "git gud." If that is indeed what you mean then that is fine, but it is still worth acknowledging that the greater competition for funding of today means scientists of today are not playing the same game as scientists of Bell Labs's time.


By definition the vast majority of scientists are mediocore… so isn’t it a tautology that almost all of them wouldn’t be “playing the same game” as the 99.9th+ percentile assembled anywhere?


Put another, I think more accurate way: hindsight is always 20/20.

Very often, the thing that seemed impossible that suddenly wasn't anymore looks "obvious" when looking back at the completed solution.


As somebody that occasionally studies pure math books those can be very, very light on regular English.


That makes them much easier to read though, its so hard to find a specific statement in English compared to math notation since its easier to find a specific symbol than a specific word.


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