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This is in fact not correct. There are two unique identifiers for every german citizen, first the so called "Rentenversicherungsnummer" and the "Steueridentifikationsnummer". Both are assigned at birth.


The usage of the Rentenversicherungsnummer is strictly limited by law, basically to pension-related administration. It cannot be legally used for general purpose.

The Steuerindentifikationsnummer used to be strictly limited to tax purposes. Against original political promises the legislation has been changed 2 years ago, weakening the limitations. I am not familiar with the details.


Yes that is correct, but they are not much used outside of the service they are intended for.


The Steuer-ID is now intended to be used as a global identifier. The law is already enacted, but there are still some technical questions open.

See https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/pressemitteilungen/DE/202...


That's "propaganda" by the ministery, not answering many questions. They only claim that all government administration will become digital, smooth, and much cheaper.

Is it allowed to use the Steuer-ID for non-government purposes?


An enacted law is not "propaganda", it's the law. You can ignore all the fluff around the factual statements if you like.

The number is only intended to be used by government entities. The law restricts usage to census and communication with government entities (as well as already established tax-related use).


The law is not. But the press release you linked just promised bright future without giving any somewhat nuanced information. Mentioning the number of 584 (whatever it was...) authorities might sound like detail. But it it's completely useless for a single citizen. These are authorities all over the country, no citizen will ever interact with most of them. What I wnat to know how far does it reach for a single resident and where are the limits. The press release does not take citizens into account at all, it's just poor, that's why I called it "propaganda".

(At the moment I am citizen, but not a resident so I have no Steuer-ID yet. But a) it might become a resident some day again and b) as a citizen I occasionally have interact with various authorities anyway. So on top of being interested what happens in Germany in general it might affect me personally.)

An increasing number of previosly public administrative functions have been privatized. Does that immediately mean that data exchange stops there?


The number mentioned is of services, not entities supplying them (there are far more as many are rendered on a local level). A typical citizen uses a few dozen of those although often only once a decade or so. The text probably doesn't go into detail as that is part of another set of legislation.

I can't think of a service like the ones on the list that has been privatized. The law as written would not extend to that but who knows what would be enacted in that case.

Anyway, this is all theory so far as they are still in the stage of drawing up a technical architecture.


Which makes it completely useless for applications like credit scoring.


Absolutely. Credit scoring is a shady business and as a person educated in Germany I think shady business should be kept away from government information as much as possible.


A unique identifier is hardly "government information".

In any case, Germany does not have one, yet Schufa (the German credit scoring agency) still exists and still is able to build profiles on everybody living in Germany. So what's the gain?

Data mining operations like them will be able to perform good-enough matching based on fuzzy data like current and previous address; it just makes it more likely for errors to happen due to non-unique names and incorrectly merged or split credit profiles, and makes legitimate requests for your own data more difficult than necessary.


In Germany it is. Nobody else but government offices (federal, state, county, municipal) is allowed to use them. E.g. employers have access to them, but still they are legally required to only use an internal employee number for their internal operations.

Creating one that is shared between private instances would require explicit consent by the citizen to every company to use it according to GDPR. Well, of course Schufa requires consent too, which is not truly a decision a citizen can make. If you don't agree I don't think you'd find any bank opening an account. But I do hope there will such a public outcry if anybody tried to start such surveillance again today, it would fail in the beginning. Like Google Streetview did.

I am not convinced the Schufa score data quality is always very good. (Not living there I cannot request my own one, just a feeling.)


> In Germany it is. Nobody else but government offices (federal, state, county, municipal) is allowed to use them.

That still does not make it "government information". It's a primary key that (currently) may not be used by the industry. But by itself, it does not identify anything or anyone. In that sense, it's even less sensitive than a name; realistically though, if it's widely stored next to the associated name anyway, it's effectively the same as a name in terms of sensitivity.

A credit score is effectively a database shared across the financial industry. As such, it needs some sort of primary key. That can be either be something globally unique, like an SSN or equivalent, or a wonky composite primary key (first_name, last_name, date_of_birth, last_known_address) which will cause lots of false positives and false negatives:

What if you change your name? What if you move? What if there's somebody with the same name born on the same day in the same city? What if the spelling of your city has changed between your birth and your time of requesting a loan/credit card?

You may object to the idea of credit scoring in general, but being ok with credit scoring, yet objecting to the usage of a sane primary key to do it, makes no sense to me.


If a reliable primary key exists, it can easily be misused for many purposes: On the more benign side replace the Android Advertisement ID. On the malign side registering political opinions of citizens.

I don't want to live in such society. Yes, bad things can and have be done before. But making them simpler, cheaper, and more scalable needs to be avoided.


Fuzzy primary keys might have been a deterrent in the past century, but I seriously doubt that they'd stop anyone today from creating detailed user profiles. Not having reliable primary keys is a technical non-solution for a regulatory problem.

The much more effective solution here is to regulate businesses in when they can request/use somebody's primary key and/or other PII, and to simply not allow it in any case where a pseudonymous identifier or partial information (e.g. only somebody's approximate age rather than their full date of birth) would do just as well.


I live in a country where a unique identify number exists (social security number). People that understand something about information security would know that knowledge of a primary key is not authentication. It has not deterred the government or the courts to accept that knowledge of the social security number makes any contract valid. Example: If someone takes a loan with your number, you pay it back. You could argue that's not the fault of they key, that's the fault of the government and the courts. I have seen so much stupidity here that I am convinced that the traditional West German standpoint that a unique identifier violates human dignity makes sense. That Germany forgets their history is a pity.


So your actual objection to SSN-like numbers isn’t that they’re bad for privacy but rather that they’re a poor bearer token authentication mechanism? I think nobody was ever arguing that.

And Germans arguably aren’t “forgetting their history”, they are just regulating to achieve desired outcomes (no government and corporate privacy invasion; strong authentication where necessary), not mechanisms (no unique identifiers).

Times and technology change, so why uphold an old (interpretation of) law that is neither necessary nor sufficient to achieve the desired outcome in the present day?


> A unique identifier is hardly “government information”.

An identifier is issued by the government for legally-specified government uses is government information.

Other identifiers may or may not be, but other identifiers aren’t the issue here.

Overgeneralizing the issue in dispute to obscure relevant context is not productive.


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You could get hungrier because of the exercise and therefore eat more, which would prevent weight loss.


After a hard workout I've often felt not all that hungry at all.

Being lazy, sitting on the couch etc seems to have the opposite effect... I also wonder about what our brain consumes visually. If you're watching other people eating and drinking, it kinda makes you want to do the same.


It depends on the kind of exercise IME. Swimming is one I've found that generates an enormous appetite.


I am doubting the representativeness of this survey, as it was done on Amazon Mechanical Turk.


I would not be so sure about that.

If you were expecting to live a much longer life, people might grow more fearful about the consequences of speaking up against a dictator.


Consider this example: The Fed has issued $2 worth of treasuries in the past, which mature today. If the Fed then issues only $1 of new treasuries today, the overall amount of treasuries in circulation shrinks.


> The Fed has issued $2 worth of treasuries in the past

The Fed doesn't issue treasuries. That's the job of the US Treasury, which is responsible for making decisions about how to issue debt. When Fed purchases treasuries, it increases the quantity of bank reserves (which are less fungible) and also increases flows of capital to money markets.


I was wondering what is meant by a $9t balance sheet - 9t in assets, or equity?

I found this cool chart that shows the history and confirms it is 9t in assets: https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttren...


> 9t in assets, or equity?

The Fed purchases securities like treasuries, mortgage backed securities, and (in emergencies under 13(3)) things like commercial debt. NY Fed offers a breakdown of policies taken during covid [0].

[0] https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/blog/...


The big question is 'are they assets'? They bought 'assets' which literally nobody else wants.

They did this in 2009 and over 10 years never exited those 'assets'.

Are these in reality liabilities and worse yet, to 'buy' these 'assets' they had to issue liabilities in balance. So really this balance is not so.


> The big question is 'are they assets'? They bought 'assets' which literally nobody else wants

The Fed made massive profits on its crisis-era purchases. Many were held to maturity. Your "literally nobody else" is a multi-trillion dollar pool of buyers.

> They did this in 2009 and over 10 years never exited those 'assets'

The Fed has been buying, selling and dollar rolling its Agency MBS portfolio virtually every quarter between the end of the financial crisis and beginning of the pandemic [2]. "Never exited" is false, particularly if you're citing the '09 assets. Even if we amend that to consider net positions, the very article this thread is attached to posits the reduction of those levels.

[1] https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/domestic-market-operation...

[2] https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo_transaction_data#ambs


>The Fed made massive profits on its crisis-era purchases. Many were held to maturity.

The graph from multiple OPs literally say otherwise.

>Your "literally nobody else" is a multi-trillion dollar pool of buyers.

Like normally there's a multi-trillion dollar pool of buyers and the market is healthy. The fed came in when they stopped buying. That's kind of tautological.

>The Fed has been buying, selling and dollar rolling its Agency MBS portfolio virtually every quarter between the end of the financial crisis and beginning of the pandemic [2]. "Never exited" is false, particularly if you're citing the '09 assets. Even if we amend that to consider net positions, the very article this thread is attached to posits the reduction of those levels.

The balance sheet is not some spot where the government makes investments for profits. Sure they had to cycle assets but they certainly didn't exit anything.

Why did the fed not do this pre-2009. why was this only during economic disasters like covid as well? This isn't some brilliant play by the government. This is them taking on the highest risk securities and eating the cost during bad time.

If they didn't take these actions the situation would have been worse. It's good they did what they did but this was certainly not some brilliant profitable play.


> graph from multiple OPs literally say otherwise

Not sure what this refers to. But whoever those OPs are, they're wrong. The Fed has remitted tens of billions of dollars to the Treasury every year since 2011 [1], including from realized (not mark to market) gains.

> normally there's a multi-trillion dollar pool of buyers and the market is healthy

You said the Fed "bought assets which literally nobody else wants." Present tense. Literally.

> balance sheet is not some spot where the government makes investments for profits. Sure they had to cycle assets but they certainly didn't exit anything.

They sold. You can tell because "transaction category," column C, says "sale" versus dollar rolling.

> Why did the fed not do this pre-2009

If by "this" you mean QE, 2008 was the first true American credit crisis since WWII and the first depression-level threat since the Great Depression.

> this was certainly not some brilliant profitable play

Of course not. Making money isn't the Fed's job. It will lose money trimming its balance sheet because its policy goal, higher rates, directly reduce the value of those assets. (In the same way that its 2008 policy goals, lower rates and financial stability, directly increased the value of its purchases.)

The Fed bought assets, in 2009 and '10, which people want to buy and have wanted to buy for a decade. They verifiably sold many of those assets. They're planning to sell much more in the near future. To buy these assets they had to issue liability in the form of money, which is literally their job. Every claim in the original comment [2] is materially incorrect and/or fundamentally misguided.

[1] https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/othe...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30778464


I think the other poster might have meant that the fed’s assets have increased. So they did sell, but it was a net inflow of assets.


The liability to match the asset is money which they create.


Not really incorrect. Both are in a way correct. In 2002 the nuclear power phase-out was written into law. With Merkel in 2010 there was a decision to keep the power plants running for far longer. This extension was retreated because of the Fukushima desaster.


Oil might last a lot longer than you think at first. Even at the proven oil reserves of 2016 the oil would last for 47 years (https://www.worldometers.info/oil/). Additionally, new reserves could be found. Another potentially very large source of oil is coal. You can make oil from coal via the Fischer-Tropsch technology. As there already are considerably more proven coal reserves than oil reserves, this would probably push out the point of "no oil left" a lot further.


That is not very long not even one generation.


I am curious about your rationale of throwing scooters in the river. Are you not aware that the batteries will leak and pollute the river?


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>You're clearly not an engineer, don't understand how these are manufactured, nor how these are life-cycled... with bloody GPS on them 24x7.

The grunts collecting these machines don't get paid enough to fish them out of the river. They're gonna get marked as missing and the company will replace them with a new one.

Edit: For all I know they could end up building rescue robots that also get thrown into the river.


This user's HN profile is: "A human, like you, but not. Please be kind, rewind. "

Yet a solid quarter of their HN comments are attacks and personal name-calling insults.


In Germany for example, a lot of people have no credit card.


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