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I find it amazing that anyone uses it in the business world. Next up HR will be adding tarrot cards and oiji boards

Then again I find it amazing that anyone uses it at all. It's complete trash


Would you please stop posting shallow dismissals and calling names in HN comments? Posts like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26289644 are not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: we've had to ask you this sort of thing a ton of times. Eventually we ban such accounts. If you wouldn't mind reviewing the guidelines and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


"we've had to ask you this sort of thing a ton of times. Eventually we ban such accounts"

No you haven't. What's wrong with calling out bad products for what they are?


You replied to several of these at the time, but perhaps a refresher will be helpful:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23011040

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22280026

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17856086

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17447722

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17335152

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181868

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16814032

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16261030

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16788897

The problem isn't "calling out bad products", though I wouldn't use the phrase "calling out", since the online callout/shaming culture is something we try to avoid here. Thoughtful critique is obviously welcome.

The problem is that you have a long history of breaking the site guidelines by posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments. If you can't or won't stop this, we will ban you, so please stop.


You'd get better response if you gave reasons for your statement. You may be right that this test is complete trash, I suspect many people here would agree.

The top comment on this thread says that Myers Briggs is complete trash

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26291262

The difference is they defend their assertion, and that post led to a very interesting discussion from both sides.

The article and the comments generally lead me to believe that there is correlation between MB and "Big 5", there is little from the tests that is actionable, but that's because of argued points one way or another, not be stating it's "complete trash"

Likewise, if you think rackspace is overpriced, or the customer service is lacking, perhaps some examples would get a better response. Why even post the statement if you aren't going to defend it? Is it to try to persuade people that rackspace is awful? You won't persuade anyone without a reason.

Something like "Rackspace is overpriced trash as they charge $500 for a 1U colo and my server had frequent outages, where BobRackInc charge $100 and has never had downtime" would, despite being an anecdote, at least open up the conversation.


The voodoo I’ve seen from HR departments makes MB look like Newtonian Physics.

Yet they are so bad at stats that you can’t even enter a discussion on if it passes any kind of empirical test.


It should not be surprising at all. How many companies have you worked at where part of your performance review involves dividing and averaging ordinal numbers?

If you give someone some sort of numeric rating in N categories you cannot mathematically (trivially) average these rating to get a meaningful score.

Ordinal numbers only allow you to say A is greater than B and B is greater than C therefore A is greater than C, but it says nothing about the distance between A and B, B and C and A and C.

Yet at countless companies compensation is determined by literally nonsensical mathematical operations.

Before the pedants get me, there are ways to transform ordinal numbers to do perform more complex mathematical operations on them, but I can assure you that your HR department does not do these.

So given HR's disregard for basic principles of mathematics it should not be surprising that they find the variety of personality tests worthwhile.


HR isn’t spending time on this ritual for performance reasons, but for risk management. It doesn’t serve your desired purpose, and the math would make no sense. Yet it perfectly satisfices what’s asked of them.

// https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisficing


Considering that some HR tests still include analyzing your handwriting by 'graphologists'.


Rackspace was always overpriced garbage


They are in california. They can give the finger to the gpdr. It's irrelevant to most people in the world

People tend to forget that it is not applicable. For instance nothing I build will ever comply to it regardless of users that might be in europe

Clubhouse has no duty to obey european law

The question is: why do you think the need to be compliant?


This is not how it works. If you make it available to EU users, you have to comply with GDPR (at least when it comes to those user's data).

For the same reason WhatsApp's new T&Cs don't really change anything for EU users.

However I don't think the collection of contacts is actually illegal under GDPR, considering WhatsApp does exactly this too. And it's huge in Europe, much bigger than in the US. if they haven't gone after WhatsApp for this, they will probably not do so for Clubhouse.


If they don't do business there they don't have to comply. Making it available doesn't count

Just like I don't have to comply if I have EU users on a service, I am in the united stated. europe cannot enforce their laws here. It's just the same as if saudia arabia tried to enforce their laws here. They carry no wait

That is what makes the GDPR insignificant. It applies to Europe. Not the rest of the world. The cookie warnings for the vast majority of the internet are stupid an unnecessary

So call it illegal in europe but who cares?

It honestly is maddening how many people care about the GDPR that don't need to


There's many EU things that take effect with vendors outside the EU. Like software sales: Try to buy a license for a software package from the EU (or with an EU payment card) and you will always be hit with VAT at the rate of your country :( Even if the company is US based only. With the exception of really small ones I guess. In the above case it's annoying for us :) But in the case of GDPR it's good IMO.

Anyway the EU says it applies but I agree they don't really have much in the way of enforcement capability with companies that have no presence here. Though they could ask Apple/Google to remove it from the store I suppose.

And of course most companies do have a presence here. All multinationals do, and even the smaller ones. Even if it's just a sales office.


Most American companies don't though. They can safely ignore european laws


And also choose not operate in the nations whose laws they are flouting in most cases; EDIT: a few weeks ago EU posters here were describing how ERCOT was preventing access to the company's public facing website, citing not wanting to comply with GDPR


Data poisoning needs to become a standard practice. Make the "valuable" ad data useless


From an economics perspective it seems like a more viable approach. Most of the techniques considered state of the art now are likely easily detectable by Google and other ad tech companies - they have a very good idea of which data can be safely discarded. Rather than blocking Google Analytics I wonder what would happen if browsers started responding with garbage.



Couldn't agree more. It's a far better approach as a cloaking technique. Reason I use privacy-possum addon on Firefox.


Do you really believe that?


Why isn't there more effort to subvert tracking vs trying to block it. Ruin the data and they can collect as much as they want


There is a Chrome extension named Ad Nauseam. Was arguably but ultimately blocked by Google extension store. I still manually install and use it.


I'm guessing if facebook outright killed the app and blame it on apple. Facebook would do far better than apple would


The SEC has caught up to 2001, yay


It has a low talent barrier and a flooded job market

There really isn't much to say


There is no "we". I started using it because I can recklessly trade it. I see no utility in the current expensive implemention

I don't care if it is centralized or not


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