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>The company desperately needs a Sundar/Satya type leader.

For the sake of the world's sanity, I'd rather see them go belly up.


Yea, we're all lucky that the company is so badly managed and lacks vision and execution. If they were visionary, competent and effective, Meta products would be an even bigger menace and more destructive than they already are.

I know this is satire, but I worry that it's giving some scumbags out there ideas.

> And they're often disingenously included in fossil fuel pricing to claim that green energy is fundamentally cheaper.

There’s nothing unreasonable about this: fossil fuels have huge costs associated with them that are invisible to the consumer. They’ve just been getting pushed off onto other people forever.


By all means, calculate an arbitrary uplift on the price based on your own definitions of externalities.

But don't expect me to take you seriously when you directly compare a raw price of renewable energy with an uplifted price of fossil fuels.

Especially when your quoted price for renewable energy ignores the cost of grid upgrades, storage infrastructure, and externalities associated with mining materials to manufactur solar panels and wind turbines etc (as happened recently in UK parliament when the energy minister did a very dubious comparison between energy prices)


> externalities associated with mining materials to manufactur solar panels and wind turbine

Solar panels can be recycled, so eventually they will need very little mining.

Have you ever recycled gasoline? Have you ever heard of the Deepwater Horizon?

I think you're being disingenuous while accusing others.


Even if all the solar panels in the world were recycled, you’ve barely scratched the surface of the points I made.

You haven't made any.

They’re building more dirty plants than anyone, but they’re STILL making their mix cleaner at an impressive clip. Over 80% of new electric demand growth was met by renewables in 2024.

>The thing that's gone haywire now is that discretion is being used in a repugnant manner to most actually sane people.

This was probably expected. What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it.


> What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it.

Through this entire experience, the greatest revelation for me has been this:

There is a very large number of massively stupid people who live among us. Much more so than most of us expected.


>a few neurons probably don't have conscience

Given our piss poor understanding of consciousness, I have to ask: on what grounds do you make this claim?


They’ve denied being involved in naked corruption, I suppose we have no choice but to take them at their word.


Trying to make out that BBC and The Guardian are the least bit like Fox News is brain rot material.


Please don't break the site guidelines like this. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


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Can you please stop breaking the site guidelines so we don't have to keep banning you?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


And what rule did I break exactly? Please show it to me and point out which of my comments broke that rule.


The GP comment broke the rules against (1) snark, (2) name-calling, (3) fulmination, and (4) ideological battle, for starters.


Thanks


The mods need an excuse to shut this one down.


This has undoubtedly been in the works since before Trump took office. Construction for manufacturing has taken a nose dive since Trump won the election, though, so even if this particular factory was because of him, the overall picture isn’t any good.


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