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Can those Credit Systems be it China’s or any social networking services be gamed? I’ve seen a lot of people deleting their accounts out of fear for their data and privacy. But at the same time, a lot people get the system to work in their favor, e.g r/churning. I’m not dismissing the harm or discouraging conversation for privacy. Just asking if we can hack it.


5) Are there any anti-spoofing measures already out there? It sounds like if there are, they can be easily bypassed...


First time a phone was advertised unlocking with facial recognition, it took one day for researchers to unlock it with a printed photograph. Try that with modern phones..

I have done three years research on that topic: yes there are out there! Do they work: to some extent yes. Can it be bypassed: like any system yes.


I still don’t get it: why would you choose something that’s so hard to change, if ever, for a store ID? It’s convenient but is it secure? There are photos of me waving with my palms out...


Do you really think this is a photo of your palm they're storing?

No doubt there are 3D scanners (to map the elevation of your palms, the depth of the lines, etc.), infrared imaging and a slew of other minor sensors. To make this fast, they need to effectively correlate enough of the data to identify you without relying solely on a single thing.


We already know there are solid theoretical basis for rebuilding 3d spaces from photos. Infrared imaging doesn't dramatically get different data from a regular camera except maybe picking up your veins a bit more clearly.

There aren't a bunch of other sensors available.. probably some heat/temperature just to make sure it's a real palm but that's not for uniqueness.


The photo of your palms out doesn't include an image of your veins because it wasn't taken with an infrared camera.


“ One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm.”

Wow. Never thought of that. But is it easy to reconstruct veins?


So you are upset that now other people can stop you from exploiting me when I am not using your service? Hmmmmmmmm


Would make a good script for a Wolf of Wall Street type of movie


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