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You'd be surprised how common of a request it is!


That's amazing. I've yet to get that request (I get the opposite -- customers wanting to join my slack channel -- which makes more sense to me).


If you run a digital product, having a Slack/Discord is a good way to let people get help, it makes a lot more sense.


Six years later, we still haven't joined your Slack.


Interesting points! Starting from a narrow perspective gives you feedback that is valuable, not noise that you can ignore. Most founders set their sights on an audience that is overfit (too narrow) or underfit (they have no experience). Striking a balance is key.


Consulting is one thing, but in the startup ecosystem I'm in I have (during the last 15 years) never ever seen a startup having a too narrow target segment (and I know several investors with the same mindset).


Hi there! Thanks for looking. It is meant to be a very brief review -- if you read the italicized intro, you can see what I mean.


A marketer's perspective would be that the job of the ten words above the fold is to entice you to learn more, to pique your interest. Not at all to communicate everything about the product -- docs are for that. I don't think it's fair to say that these statements aren't "grounded in reality," but I do understand your sentiment.


Noted!


That's arguably just a commodity at this point, right?


I don't think so. I use GitLab for work, and the experience is definitely more clunky than GitHub. Merge requests load slowly, and clicking on, say, a specific file is very unresponsive, often taking me to the wrong place.

I'm also subscribed to a 4 year old issue for adding timestamps to CI logs.


Fair point!


What pages should we look at next?


Microsoft 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110330160247/http://www.micros...

Microsoft 2024: One single almost full screen advert for one of their devices, followed by more adverts.

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SendGrid. An example of a good homepage with a description of what services it provides:

> Send transactional and marketing emails at scale with the platform that offers a 99% deliverability rate. Brands large and small use SendGrid’s world-class email tools to deliver 148+ billion emails monthly.

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Twilio, who owns SendGrid. An example of another shitty homepage. It has three big standout headings, all of which are much like GitHub's word salad but worse.

> Gartner names Twilio a Leader in CPaaS

I have no idea what Gartner or CPaaS is, and a homepage should get to the point immediately.

> The 2023 Gartner® Magic Quadrant™ for CPaaS recognizes Twilio based on its completeness of vision and ability to execute.

Hmm yes more word salad this time with a few copyright symbols thrown in for good measure. Plus, we get to feel like wizards because they said the word magic.

> Connect the dots across your customer journey with better data + AI

> Twilio is the industry-leading and trusted platform that efficiently powers your customer engagement innovation.

Ah, there! There we go, it's more AI nonsense! I have to scroll down *to the middle of the page to see what Twilio even does*!


Gartner and their magic quadrant are very popular among business folks.

It’s a way to see where all of the players in a market stand.

I use gartner stuff if I am presenting to execs or business users.

Twilio knows that it usually isn’t the engineers buying stuff. It’s the business people.


Will put Twilio on the list, thanks!


Is it "AI nonsense" because you don't see that as the core of the product?


github pages


Proving that it really is the pickle that makes the meal.


Incredible!


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