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Why is this downvoted? What the (far) right wing has done to american institutions is incredibly destructive and it will take decades to fix it, if that's even possible. People are hurting because of it.

The normies are what makes Microslop money, though. We need to get the normies onboard in order to fight MS' stranglehold on computing. Gatekeeping isn't the right move here.

I can't delete my comment now, but I think you're right. I don't consider "take it or leave it" to be gatekeeping, but when the world's biggest corporations pose a threat to software liberty, distros becoming more palatable to average users is strictly a good thing.

Not that I'm even involved with distro development anyway. Probably would've been better to let the real OS engineers have the discussion on that one.


Agreed. Every single user that stops using Microslop products and embraces open computing environments is a net win for software freedom. And I want open/free/libre software to succeed.

Well, seniors get everything else handed to them in this world, so I don't shed many tears when they are left out for once.

Some deserve our wrath but it’s tough for a lot of them out there! From USA:

  The U.S. Census Bureau's latest data, released today, show that the poverty rate continues to rise among older adults, reaching 15%.

  This rise in economic challenges comes as recent cuts to benefits programs, like SNAP and Medicaid, will inevitably leave more older adults without funds to afford basic costs of living, including medications, health care visits, and food.
https://www.ncoa.org/article/poverty-among-older-adults-keep...

No, it's not conscious, and anybody pretending it is has either no clue, or, more likely in the AI space, is a grifter.

Shareholder value had to be increased, don't you understand?!

More likely: "People needed to get promotion packages, don't you understand?!"

I would guess many of the bad changes are caused by perverse incentives which do not even help shareholder value.


My mental model remains that the Windows team is mostly governed by designers on Macs who want to see a user-visible change to get their promo and never use Windows.

Or people could instead not use Microslop software, easy fix for the AI bullshit. But yeah of course you're technically right.

I like your solution better.

AI is the ultimate grifting tool, grifters gonna grift.

5 years ago it was blockchain & NFT’s.

Same hypers just moved to different technology.


In my circles it literally was the same people. Instead of trying to get me to buy ETH they started talking only via LLMs. Unsurprisingly we aren't in touch anymore... Maybe they are happier with their chatbots, I'll never know that's for sure

I'm intensely curious, since you know they're grifters, why are they in your circles? I guess maybe you don't mean circles the way I'm thinking and more the whims of algorithms?

No I mean social circles

Because I am too nice and even though every conversation had an element of grift there was still a conversation. Most of them are lost, or struggling with their identity. Yes there's some greed but half of them just want to fit in somewhere and they aren't technical geniuses despite loving technology. I like people like that, of course with out the grift.

That said we don't keep in touch anymore. I do miss them though. I'm something like an abused dog that has seen too many things in their life to not look past all ugliness and see someone's inside. I hang around a lot of hurt people because í want them to have a safe person they can come to if they choose to heal.

Wow that's personal. I should stop posting here and go find some new friends.


Thanks for sharing.

People get sucked into all sorts of schemes or ideas.

I never said grifters but a fair share of my social circle pumped crypto’s/nft’s when they bought some(small amounts but whatever).

Same people just can’t shut up about AI/LLM’s. I don’t care your LLM helped you generate an outlook email address export tool when a quick google reveals outlook can export the email address natively with just a few clicks.


All of the "carbon credit" guys I know are now all in on AI with zero sense of self awareness.

> All of the "carbon credit" guys I know are now all in on AI with zero sense of self awareness.

Some people made a lot of money off of those platforms. Everything was a nice story, but once you dug just a wee bit... smoke and mirrors.


There were definitely honest people trying to make a difference but they were unfortunately _vastly_ overshadowed by grifters.

Yep, 25 years ago it was the web. And remember the great electricity grift 100 years ago. And horseless carriage grifters like Ford!

Yeah, you probably said web3 was going to change the web too.

Don't stick your head in the sand just cause one fad didn't play out.

I’m not, I’m presently underwhelmed by the examples everyone shows.

I’m yet to see actual productivity result from people paying to talk to chatbots to generate boilerplate.

But I tend to shy away from hypers so the LLM craze is passing me by. I have seen uses of AI/ML that helps recognise objects in images which I have seen it do OK at(and it should because it’s the same image just 10m down the road). A human then reviews the outputs. It also spits out highly inaccurate outputs fairly often that the human is necessary even with a feedback loop.


See how fast so many of the crypto and NFT/Web 3 lot shifted to AI, like rats on a sinking ship.

I think VCs saw Crypto and dreamt of being able to create the same amount of irrational value. AI has the same technical complexity "You can't easily explain it in a single sentence" energy but unlike Crypto and NFTs, enough actual utility to not seem completely illegitimate. It literally is the perfect hype grift tool. Crypto has survived almost 20 years off of nonsense, how long can this crap last. sigh


If you still think crypto and AI are nonsense, then I guess you will carry these beliefs the rest of your life, but these beliefs won't outlive you, as they have no relation to reality.

I said AI has utility but drives irrational levels of investment. Crypto has little utility besides a place to gamble, con credulous people and otherwise act as a really shitty store of wealth.

Most modern crypto projects barely bother to promise to do anything useful let alone achieve anything useful, which the overwhelming majority do not.

These aren't beliefs but statements of fact.


Those things you listed have lots of utility. Gambling is one of the most lucrative industries to be in.

That's very uncharitable. Crypto has been extremely useful for all sorts of grifters and enabled separating fools from their money at true web scale.

Indeed, it would be difficult for Iran to receive payment for passage through the straight or Hormuz without crypto or fir North Korea's ransomwwre economy to be so lucrative.

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Ok. Well have fun. Bye.

Who is investing in NFTs today?

Who is building their company using permission-less blockchain as the database? The average person still uses a bank checking account, not replacing it with a crypto account.

I haven’t heard of any progress on tokens in the Governance direction.

Stablecoins without a public audit trail have so far stayed relevant, but there are several which are suspiciously reminiscent of the mistakes that SBF made.

We all see the transfer of funds and the ostensible store of wealth when it comes to buying influence or presidential pardons. Those of us not wearing crypto-colored glasses don’t see the promise that VCs sold us on the industry 5-10 years ago.


I never spoke about NFTs nor do I have to speak about them, not today and not ever, so save your bait. It's in the same way that you didn't speak about bank bailouts, so I won't bait you into it.

Most people obviously use multiple accounts of different types. Those who have crypto wallets will never reveal them to you in the interest of their privacy.

Stablecoin firms make so much cash via interest that they're easily over-capitalized.

If you're foolish enough to be manipulated by VC interests, that's your own fault. I would focus on the tech, not on what VCs want you to believe. This applies generally, irrespective of the sector. I don't know why this is hard to understand.


NFTs are stupid. But I have a feeling as governments default on their debt and economies collapse in the next few decades cryptocurrencies will be of increasing importance.

Cryptocurrencies are now useless, considering how openai and similar companies have enough compute to highjack them and the AI thing might not work out at all…

(1) Capability is not the same as action. Every police officer in my city COULD murder me with their department issued gun at pretty much any time, but they haven’t. There are multiple reasons why, not the least of which is that _actions have consequences_. Worrying about that scenario is futile.

(2) The major cryptocurrencies aren’t as vulnerable to a malicious majority as you seem to think. All of the BTC ATMs, PoS providers, crypto exchanges, etc have strong incentive to ban malicious peers and they can do this soon after they identify the threat. The malicious majority would not be sufficient - they would also have to continually mine their own blocks faster than the rest of the network does.

(3) There would be a forked blockchain but only naive nodes which trust by default would continue with the illegitimate fork. Of the nodes who actually USE the cryptocurrency don’t agree with the malicious majority, it will be difficult to get the coins / tokens out of exchanges.

(4) The duration of any stolen nodes is the duration of the attack. Once the AI GPUs stop the attack and return to responding to LLM prompts, the legitimate blockchain returns to being the longest one, so all of the network returns to trusting the legitimate blockchain fork.

(5) The BTC network is controlled by a protocol agreed to by consensus. If the illegitimate blockchain fork stays longer than the legitimate one, the participants in the market can agree on a protocol change which hardcodes the illegitimate blockchain out of the picture (this happened with the ETH DAO in the early days after a successful double-spend attack).


I want the drugs you’re on :D

Thanks for your deep and clearly thought out reply.

That's 100% nonsense.

Thanks for putting the time to articulate why the AI GPUs cannot possibly be used to fork the blockchain and obtain the majority.

Because they're needed to run AI. Newer hardware is increasingly specialized for AI too. Moreover, if funds start disappearing, the price will crash, negating the point.

As opposed to you, of course, the only person who has a valid opinion online.

Edit: ah, account few days old and this is your first comment. Hello, Ivan, nice social influencing campaign you're running there.


I agree with you! Fuck Ivan. Israel first, not Russia!

Russia turns everything it touches to shit.

You're not wrong. Capitalism really does seem to be falling apart.

Russia is, as usual, a burden on humanity.

The world severely underestimates how much better things would become overnight once the Russian Federation collapses.

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Why? Russia does nothing except spread pain, violence and suffering. Just look at what they do to Ukraine every day.

Over the last century they have invaded sooo many of their neighbors, and spread so much pain, that pretty much any neighbors that have not been violently incorporated to the RF hates their guts.

Notice how that the closer the neighbor, the more they are willing to sacrifice to keep them away - only ignorant western tankies, that don’t know wtf they are talking about, think Russia is not global cancer.


I 100% agree with you.

No one blathering about Russia truly cares about the Ukranian people. No one who cares about the Ukranian people would commit the country and its people to destruction to avoid one Russian speaking corrupt short guy from replacing another Russian speaking corrupt short guy. These are psychos who think "becoming European" is more important than "being alive". Zelensky has been a total disaster for Ukraine, in objective terms.

Hatred of Russia is not the same thing as respect for the sovereignty of the Ukranian people. In this case, they lead to extremely different outcomes.


I'd rather listen to Ukrainians on this topic, and they are pretty clear on what they support and against what they are fighting.

The Ukranians that agree with you, or disagree with you? Why are you casting them as a monolithic entity with one opinion?

(Because you view them as lesser. I rest my case.)


I know only a single Ukrainian IRL who is pro-russia, the vast majority is vehemently as anti-russia as can be, and I adopted my opinion about this tragedy from them.

>I rest my case

Yeah, you really should.


So you want the Ukrainians to just shut up, stay poor, and do what the Russians tell them to? Because the Russians are aggressive and have lots of weapons?

Whatever the Russians would theoretically subject them to (i.e. the pre 2014 status quo) is a million times better than the tyranny and destruction of the eurojihadi Zelensky. At least if you care about normal person things like peace and stability.

you have no clue what you are talking about - stop embarrassing yourself

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