Some of the best examples are too sensitive to share on this forum. Other things get flagged and reported. Some new topics/sources that squeeze by invite the bots.
The best arguments for Google's algorithms making people crazy for lay people would be Aaron Swartz like individuals who just go unknown.
I can think of atleast 4 individuals new to me the last 6mo ive discovered who used to cover court cases, ran NGOs, or worked as journalists that have been seemingly swept up in what looks like delusions.
Lots of typos, egegious oversights, etc#. Its hard to personify these individuals as theyre hard to reach and anyone w ptsd or whom knows people w ptsd know how hard it is to provide support to someone locked in a fight-or-flight reflex. After a terror/fear/paranoia becomes familiar anything else feels foreign. Human connection becomes scary.
Read up on bateson-esque schizomogenisis and reflect on the CIAs relation with the "unabomber".
Keep in mind the whole "easy to read" over any network thing openai had going on early on. Theyve only gotten better at hiding their datamining. Theyre more interested in your mind than your wallet. dont reinforce other peoples' algorithm if they wont be straight up regarding what theyre really doing with it.
Admittedly I didn't read the whole page but a quick skim of the first several paragraphs didn't produce anything with obvious ties to national socialism, what am I missing?
genman is saying that critical evaluation of Israel’s automated targeting AI system (used for selecting bombing targets without human verification) is equivalent to supporting Hitler.
Their logic is that Palestinians represent a credible existential threat to Jewish people internationally in the same way that Hitler’s military did, so that criticism of IDF bombing campaigns is equivalent to Naziism, and Palestinian resistance is identified as genocide against Israel.
It is calling Israel "the so-called Jewish state" and 'Israel' what effectively means a claim that Jewish people do not have right for the state on their ancestors land and genocide against them (like genocide on 7th October, or earlier intifadas) is somehow justified.
I didn't realize the entire population was terrorists because a fraction of them committed terrorism and the rest lived in close proximity, so I trust you'll be totally fine with Vietnam nuking the States for everything we, you and me obviously, put them through.
And since you asked that question in bad faith now it's my turn. Is bombing hospitals, schools, and aid convoys terrorism, or is it terrorism unless it's the IDF doing it to Palestinians, specifically?
The overwhelming majority of the population you're defending supports the killing of Israeli civilians. This is according to their own polls.
The IDF, given the limited resources, comically unreliable allies, and the hostage situation, is doing a great job. You labeled your own argument to the contrary as being in bad faith because we both know that. :)
The overwhelming majority of the population you're defending supports the killing of Israeli civilians. This is according to their own polls.
False.
The PCPSR polls (the only ones anyone is talking about) do show broad support for the statement that the Oct 7th attack was "correct". But overwhelmingly (91%) they do not believe that atrocities against civilians occurred during the attacks. 81 percent also said they did not watch videos published by international organizations showing atrocities, for a variety of reasons.
Which is still troubling, of course. But the reality of what these people actually said is entirely different from what you're describing.
Unfortunately some news outlets (such as the Times of Israel, AP) chose to present misleading characterizations of second poll in particular, which of course then got pasted all over social media.
The IDF is doing a great job.
Meanwhile there's plenty of denial going around as to atrocities committed by the IDF as well, of course. But this is a different topic.
It is also highly likely that these people answering the polls are simply lying and know very well what actually happened. I watched a lot of raw footage around the time of Al-Aqsa Mosque storming and what I saw considerably differed from what Palestinians claimed had happened. Al-Aqsa mosque really was used as a base for violent attacks - there were piles of stones stored in the mosque. What especially shocked and disturbed me were people just hanging around in shoes like in a nightclub, showing no respect to the holy place.
So it seems your response is: on the basis of what you saw in some videos regarding an event in the Old City a little ways back -- most Palestinians are pathological liars, and that's all there is to it.
So you discount the possibility of widespread ideological indoctrination to claim that everything that is negative does not exist and is let's say - a Jewish propaganda? What about Russia? Still not possible to have completely different reality where everything negative is the fault of somebody else but themselves?
I saw the videos taken inside Al-Aqsa mosque, not just "some videos" and that considerably differed from what Palestinians claimed. And no, this is not an isolated event, just an example of very consistent pattern of lying.
Now about the 7ht October. Hamas paraded the captured civilians through Gaza and was welcomed by thousands of spectators. Honestly, the claim that 91% of the people are not at all aware of any atrocities against civilians can only mean two possibilities - they are lying or they do not consider it atrocities.
Your question was in bad faith so I responded in kind. Your argument is that it doesn't matter how many noncombatant Palestinians (or aid workers of the UN/etc) get killed because there is no other option and they hate the people killing them so they deserve it anyway, and my argument is, that's bullshit.
When supporters buy and repeat every Zaka lie that BBC, NYT etc launder even past being discredited even by Israeli papers like Haaretz, there’s not much hope in the back and forth
Russia is right now trying its best to forcefully assimilate all the small nations it keeps occupying, because it is afraid that in one they have to give all of it back.
Since that has nothing to do with what came previously, I'll be 100% uncharitable and assume that's a big old No and you support IDF bombing hospitals and schools and aid convoys unless you explicitly indicate otherwise. Glad we had this little chat.
