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A screenshot would help


A screenshot of what? It just looks like a normal web page.


I know that it was number three as it a few weeks ago


This is like an xkcd comic as a blog post


Taking a step back from the current incident which is obviously tragic, this is both a testament to how safe flying is and how hard it is to trust human judgment to tell one radar blip from another. At least with some earlier incidents there was less easy ways to check on the flight. The iron curtain was still up and ADS-B transponders weren’t invented. And yet still, here we are with planes getting shot out of the skies.


Yea the docs on the Fedora side are rough. I would help but I don’t know enough because the learning was so hard.


Yea forked conversations UX is definitely one of my most desired features.


Yes, but because of the way that the milk industry is shaped in the US it’s exceedingly hard to get and many people are afraid of it.


What is this typically called? Are you referring to raw milk? I think this is a different thing.


Raw milk is milk that has not undergone pasteurization or homogenization. Depending on the state (in the US), raw milk may be illegal to sell, but there are ways to work around that for the determined.

Creamline milk is milk that was pasteurized, but not homogenized, so the cream floats to the top. It doesn't store well long-term in grocery stores, but can often be found at farm-to-table stores and other specialty boutiques.

Note that the U.S. (including my parents growing up before we got milk cows) has an obsession with "reduced fat" milk. Switching from 2% milk to whole milk makes a world of difference for taste, even without going cream line.

My favorite milk was raw from our Jerseys (they have average ~5% fat compared to national average of 4% [1]), but I've had raw Jersey milk, mixed-breed creamline milk and store-bought whole milk depending on what's available, and they all taste better than 2%.

[1]: https://queries.uscdcb.com/publish/dhi/current/hax.html


Alexandre Milk has creme top milk, in the bay area. It's pretty good, but tbh a little much for me usually.


Raw milk isn’t inherently more flavorful than pasteurized. It’s by necessity consumed sooner which enhances the flavor profile vs milk that’s spent weeks going through the typical logistics chain before you buy it. But, the safety concerns are significant and you could also get pasteurized milk that isn’t particularly old.


I've been drinking raw milk almost exclusively for about 5 years (and milking my own cows for the last 1.5 years). Whenever I get store-bought milk, I'm hit by the "cooked" flavor of it. I assume it's the pasteurization that makes the difference because I've also scalded milk on the stove -- same taste.


You’re likely noticing several other factors. Scalded milk is much larger impact via higher temperature for far longer.

The real test is to blind taste milk immediately before and after pasteurization and I couldn’t tell the difference with High-temperature short-time which only hits 71.5C for 15 seconds.

At home you can try a blind taste test after heating to 60C for 20 minutes, but we use HTST because it’s basically undetectable. UHT has a longer shelf life, but there’s just a hint of a taste difference.


You're conflating some sort of heritage cow breed with raw milk. It's being intentionally misleading.


I was because I can’t imagine somehow finding a heritage cow breed pasteurization group here in the US.


It totally was. Bit different. Excel has Lotus keybindings available to this day, the spreadsheet was the home computer’s 1st killer app and Microsoft killer it and took the market share.


Yea I’d like at least 5-6 9s in this metric


That post was from literally thousands of days ago and seems to be in relation to some confusion at that time.

Honestly to me you can see the tensions that led to the license change in that post. It’s largely consistent with what antirez has said in the post and in this thread.


Ok so just because something is in the past it's become irrelevant? So no promises are ever worth trusting? The creator of redis LITERALLY said "Redis will remain BSD licensed". And it's no longer BSD licensed.


Where is there a "promise" in that post? Where is there any wording about it remaining BSD forever?

It's a post from 2018, about a specific license confusion situation that occurred in 2018. Context matters.


In the title: "Redis will remain BSD licensed"

You can try to be a smartass and add random caveats but that's not how language works.

Imagine if everyone thought like you did: "Sure I promise to do X" (not saying that I mean for the next 5 minutes and will then ignore my past promise)


Again, where is the word "promise" in this post?

The post title in its original context is clearly referring to the confusion discussed in the very first sentence: "Today a page about the new Common Clause license in the Redis Labs web site was interpreted as if Redis itself switched license." The title is saying that Redis core's license was not switched to Common Clause at that time in 2018. That's all. It is not titled "I promise that Redis will remain open source forever".


> This is not the case, Redis is, and will remain, BSD licensed.

True, he doesn't explicitly say for how long, but I don't think it is unreasonable to read "will remain" as "will remain indefinitely" and not as "will remain so until we change our minds".


> I don't think it is unreasonable to read "will remain" as "will remain indefinitely"

That's a reasonable interpretation. But it involves an assumption on behalf of the reader, of words that are not there. I think it's a stretch to consider that specific post a "literal promise" by Antirez.

That said, I just did more research and must admit I am completely wrong with regards to the bigger picture there. My genuine apologies. In the HN commentary on that same post [1], the cofounder/CTO of Redis Labs (Yiftach) apparently made a much more direct statement that "Redis remains and always will remain, open source, BSD license". Due to use of the word "always", that I think can unambiguously be called a literal promise that was broken by the Redis company.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17818647


You don't have to use the word promise to make a promise. It's inferred.


People sometimes change their mind about decisions over time. That isn't the same thing as breaking a promise. You can infer a promise from any declarative statement, but that doesn't mean your inference is correct.


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