I agree but I think the problem will be if the consequences are that dire then entire classes of business will cease to exist OR the cost of doing things properly will be passed on to the consumer.

I struggle to see how data brokers, social media, etc are a net benefit to society so would be happy to see those sorts of businesses cease to exist, but I suspect I'm in the minority.

The entire targeted advertising industry is basically a progressive tax.

The "social contract" is that many services are fully or partially financed by advertising. Rich people produce more ad revenue (because they spend more), but they get the same quality of service, effectively subsidizing access for the poorer part of the population, who couldn't afford it otherwise.

If we break this social contract down, companies will still try to extract as much revenue as possible, but the only way to do that will be through feature gating, price discrimination, and generally making your life a misery unless you make a lot of money.

<< generally making your life a misery unless you make a lot of money.

Wait.. are you saying that we are currently living through the best of all worlds version of things?

It's a nice thought but think of the cost!

You do have to wonder what the hell the people in charge of the Windows UI are thinking. They seem to have got it so badly wrong. But so has Apple in macos.

I'm not sure the cost would be significantly worse than all the half-assed abandoned efforts so far... and it would result in the first consistent UX in Windows since Win2k.

Don't kwow why you're getting downvoted, seems like a reasonable comment to me.

I agree, JavaScript and all it has enabled is a curse.

If one wanted the good bits of JavaScript I'm sure there are languages they were copied from that could be used instead.

Still not feeling any sympathy. These people are actively working to make society worse.

I had a job in the early 90s where another team were using Wang 2200s which I'm sure were coded with line-numbered BASIC.

Could be one of those with the everlasting ERP type software running on an emulator.

I think Fusion360 is one of the worst things I've seen. It presents as local but it feels like every mouse click causes a web request to happen.

Something that should be local and snappy is just an awful experience.

Such a weird and absurd conversation to be having from the PoV of someone who started using computers a long time ago.

Offline first apps 'sound like the future'? I agree they're far better than the trash we have now, but it's not like we can't build them now.

We should be building them now. The web was never meant to be an app delivery platform :(

6502 zero page instruction vibes.

I saw this yesterday. I was asking it to update an SQL query and it was saying, 'I did this' and then that wasn't in the query. I even saw it put something in the query and then remove it, and then say 'here it is'.

Maybe it's because I use the free tier web interface, but I can't get any AI to do much for me. Beyond a handful of lines (and less yesterday) it just doesn't seem that great. Or it gives me pages of javascript to show a date picker before I RTFM and found it's a single input tag to do that, because it's training data was lots of old and/or bad code and didn't do it that way.

I used stty to make interrupt ktrl-k, then configured the terminal app to make copy/paste ctrl-c/ctrl-v.

I use copy/paste more than I use interrupt.

I hated MacOS keyboard shortcuts at first, but cmd-c/cmd-v do work around this problem.

Lovely. Do you have some tips for that? Something you put in bashrc?