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I believe that that Fermi Paradox is not a paradox at all. It's just a poor set of assumptions. Life is likely extremely rare, and intelligent life is likely astronomically rare.

Technological interstellar traveling life does not appear to exist anywhere in our Local Group.

The Local Group is only 10M light-years across. A single technological species that had arisen on any of the trillions of planets, traveling at 10% the speed of light, would only need a 100M years to colonize the entire Local Group!

We are alone, or at least the first. This is a good thing if you look at how we treat "lower" species on our own planet.


> would only need a 100M years

That's an enormous span of time. There's no reason to believe even a technologically advanced civilization would survive for that long. Let alone maintain the impetus for constant colonization. We gave up going to the moon in less than 10 years.


Yes, but in the local group there are many, many trillions of planets. That’s a lot of chances at bat.

The more commonly used example is our galaxy, which would only take 100,000 years at .1C, and has many hundreds of billions of planets.


He had to put rate limits on it as it was getting hammered to hard by HNers.

The demo seems to be in a messed up state at the moment. Maybe it's just getting hammered and too far behind?

Yeah, should probably implement rate-limiting. HNers were wildin'. :D

Working better now. But, what just happened with that inappropriate link from nully?

Is handle impersonation possible here, or was it worse than that? Or, just a joke?


Someone snatched the username when the actual nully left.

IRC without nickserv, good times

That's pretty darn funny. The impostor should have given some believable responses to keep it going.

It was hilarious.

I agree that is borderline negligence, and by far the biggest issue with AT and Bsky. Here is what I believe to be the most recent discussion on that topic:

https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/3363


Theres more recent updates on it in a blog post from Bluesky head of protocol: https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mhj6bcqats2o

Very cool! Thanks for sharing that.

The current conversations are around how to do permissined data properly on atproto. I have a prototype, but Bluesky hasn't participated in the community effort and looks to be doing their own thing. They also took Bain Capital "funding" (private equity) which was the breaking point for me. They could have set up subs for nothing and made more than that, hard fumble imo.

Having something like circles from the Google+ days would be needed if ATProto is going to go anywhere. Is it possible in the protocol?

Yeah having the messages be e2ee by default and then extending it out to one or more groups depending in which circles are currently included for messages could let atproto act like an encrypted group chat with crisscrossing group chats per message, which can ratchet up and along with the new enceyption keys each message/batch of 10 messages/hour/day until that client is dropped from a group or a group is dropped from a conversation, then the keys change and pfs prevents old clients from continuing to read future messages.

Sure you can see that users emit messages in the pds but you dint know if its for your former group or other activitt


This is the most disconnected-from-reality comment that I have read on this website, ever?

I have already written a comment here, apologies. However, I have something else to say other than a hot take, about Ed Zitron:

I believe that Ed Zitron plays a very important gadlfy role in all of this.

However, if you look at his subreddit, it appears that he has created a 100% AI denier following. My gut makes me worry for them, but I wonder where the truth really lies.

For those of us involved with code, Sonnet 3.5 was a revelation, and Opus 4.5 scared the crap out of many, and converted some of us to believers in "the exponential."

Now, in other verifiable output fields like finance/spreadsheets in general, Claude is scaring even more people.

I really do respect Ed, but I feel like his schtick might make too many people complacent, thinking that this is all fake. Also, I could be wrong.


> My gut makes me worry for them, but I wonder where the truth really lies.

Why worry?

Also I'm pretty sure I have seen a similar comment before


> > My gut makes me worry for them, but I wonder where the truth really lies.

> Why worry?

Because, instead of telling people that "it's all a bubble," while he might be partially correct, he is still creating a confirmation bubble following. He is creating a denialist community, where as his followers might be best served by learning how to use the tools.

I am not sure about any of this.

Why worry? Because if he is wrong, then there is a chance that we will be killing the animals in our zoos, to feed the people. This is something that really happened during the last "great depression."

I worry about the plight of my fellow man as it affects me.


> Because, instead of telling people that ...

I meant to write:

> Because, he tells people that "it's all a bubble," while he might be partially correct, he is still creating a confirmation bubble following. He is creating a denialist community, where as his followers might be best served by learning how to use the tools.


I still don't see what the big deal is. If LLMs are (or become) all they're cracked up to be, it shouldn't matter whether someone "learns to use the tools" today or tomorrow or five years from now. In fact they should become much easier to use as they become more intelligent, you shouldn't need all these fancy prompting strategies anymore.

(Reminds me of search engines. People who really knew how to search for things honed that skill over a period of time, only for those skills to become irrelevant now that search engines are much smarter.)

I guess my point is - why must the technology insist upon itself? Evangelizing for people to use it when they don't want to, just sounds cultish. If it's useful, people will eventually use it - like any other new technology. If someone doesn't find it useful yet, maybe they just don't work in a field that AI is good at yet.


I agree with what you’ve said. If you want to see what is cultish, look at the subreddit the post is talking about. It’s denialism and not healthy behavior.

I think these schizophrenics are stuck in a loop.

Something I heard a person say recently:

> Isn't it weird how there is no huge industry pushback on all this new AI datacenter power need, as there was about electrifying vehicles?


Almost as if that "industry pushback" argument was not made in good faith? I wonder who would be against electric vehicles?

> I wonder who would be against electric vehicles?

The fossil fuel industry ?


And car companies, who made the classic “holding back the tide” strategic blunder and basically created Tesla, BYD, and others.

Turns out the market routes right around slow movers.


What!? As if to suggest! An assertion most improper!

Was there a big industry push back against looms, tractors, computers, or the internet?

Tractors didn't get it because about the time they became useful for most farmers WWII was pushing the need for less men on the farm so they could go to war. There were tractors before then, but the previous ones had big negatives if you were not a much larger farm than most were then.

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I was going to cite that too but it's not exactly industry pushback, it's labor pushback.

EV on the other hand does have some obvious industrial adversaries.


At that time, the laborers WERE the industry?

I don't understand the question. (maybe the question mark is a mistake?) Assuming it's a statement, my guess is the rapacious capitalists would disagree with that claim.

Trying to prevent goods and services from being produced more efficiently is bad actually.

Comment section isn’t nuanced enough to have this conversation and I am on a phone, but that is the way that the industry slandered the luddites as the parent claims.

The truth was that the machines produced worse quality goods and were less safe, not that people couldn’t skill up to use them and not that there wasn’t enough demand to keep everyone employed. It was quality and safety.

You should look into the issue further, because I had your opinion too until I soberly looked at what the luddites really were arguing for, it wasn’t the end of looms, it was quality standards and fair advertising to consumers.


The mainstream conclusion is that the luddites were speaking for their own economic safety mainly along with other things.

Every party in the dispute was acting out of economic self-interest: the manufacturers wanted cheaper labour and higher margins, Parliament wanted industrial growth.

Only the workers are getting framed as though self-interest invalidates their position. The Luddites’ arguments about quality standards and consumer fraud were correct on the merits regardless of their motivation for raising them.


Everyone's interests should not be viewed as the same. More affordable clothes is more important for society than a few people's jobs.

“More affordable clothes” that fall apart in a month aren’t more affordable.

And the choice was never mechanisation versus no mechanisation… it was whether the transition would include basic labour and quality standards. With regulation, you’d still have got mechanisation and cheaper clothing in the end… just without the fraudulent goods and wage suppression. Framing it as “society versus a few jobs” is exactly the manufacturer’s argument from the 1810s, which is very effective propaganda reaching through centuries.

To drive the point home even clearer


The clothes did get dramatically more affordable after adjusting for quality (after a few bumps).

“After a few bumps”, mate, people were transported to penal colonies and fucking hanged for asking for quality standards and fair wages.

Parliament made frame-breaking a capital offence to protect manufacturer profits. Saying it all worked out eventually doesn’t justify the process, any more than cheap cotton justified the conditions under which it was produced. And frankly, look at modern fast fashion: cheap clothing that falls apart in weeks, produced under appalling conditions overseas. We’re still living with the consequences of the principle that cheapness trumps everything else.


I don't condone killing obviously.

But on quality: I found this an interesting read https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/05/ha...


Trying to keep all of labor's sweat as capitalist's own cash is bad actually.

Making clothing more efficient by employing children in dangerous factories is bad actually (what happened in the original factories and now at fast fashion).


Given the absolute slop that passes as clothing nowadays, the Luddites had very good points actually.

Personally, I enjoy not spending 15% of my salary on clothing and textiles.

Of course you would enjoy that when every single externality involved has conveniently been exported elsewhere and you have been handily trained over generations to accept piss-poor quality clothing as normal.

Perhaps in a couple of centuries when a tube of nutrient slurry is the standard meal, people will be equally proud of not spending 15% of their salary on food...if salaries even exist by then.


> Of course you would enjoy that when every single externality involved has conveniently been exported elsewhere and you have been handily trained over generations to accept piss-poor quality clothing as normal.

Lots of countries attribute the clothing industry to increasing standard of living and economic prosperity. Like India, Pakistan.


Of course, do not ask the question of how they ended up with the original low standard of living to begin with, or how that increased standard of living compares to the standard of living of the westerners proud to announce that they can get the commodities they produce for cheap.

"Something something uplifted from poverty" is much shorter, quippier and cleaner.


This paints an us vs them narrative which is frankly overdone and just appeals to emotions

If you think that paints an "us vs them" narrative as opposed to asking you not to cut off your introspection where it's convenient for you, then that's on you.

Anyone can make the choice to spend a similarly large amount of their income on clothing the way people did 200 years ago. In fact, it will be even higher quality than people had access to since we have much more advanced materials and techniques than existed back then. But, almost no one does that. Maybe you consider it brainwashing, but I consider it people just making a rational economic choice.

And yes, I can see a world where, if tasteless nutrient slurry was essentially free and perfect nutrition for the body, then people would gladly consume that for most meals, and maybe splurge every now and then on an "old school" meal. I don't really see a problem with that.


> Anyone can make the choice to spend a similarly large amount of their income on clothing the way people did 200 years ago

You really can't. That price/quality point basically does not exist anymore

What's worse is that we have "designer brands" that charge the higher price point but are the exact same low quality as the lower price point stuff. Actual midrange quality just plain does not exist


Sure it does, you just need to get something custom/bespoke/made to measure.

Take your yearly clothing expenditure and multiply it by 10. And then, just like people 200 years ago, be content with 2 to 4 compete outfits. And then stop buying clothes yearly and go more on 10+ year cycle, where you use your funds to mend clothes instead of replacing them.

Even if you only spend $300 on clothes per year, doing it the old school way means you can spend about $15,000 on 2-4 outfits and save the other $15,000 for mending and cleaning over the next 10 years.

I guarantee you you can find a high quality custom outfit for $5000.


> Sure it does, you just need to get something custom/bespoke/made to measure

As soon as you are talking about custom work you are absolutely not talking about mid-range anymore


It is precisely because I both make and buy custom apparel that I will always push back on people proudly announcing that the Luddites were wrong because they can buy clothes that are worse than rags for a few dollars today. I have actually felt and worked with quality textiles which is why it's crystal clear to me that the slop the modern garment industry produces (and I mean that very literally, a lot of these clothes straight-up lose their structural integrity after a few routine laundry cycles) is not "efficiency". The fact that I live in a region that becomes the ultimate landfill for all of this slop when westerners discard it, doesn't help either.

The luddites were wrong. They lived in a world where people needed to spend a large amount of their income on clothing. They had no cheap alternative - that's the thing they were fighting against. We live in a world where we can have cheap or expensive clothes. Having an option is better than not having an option at all.

The simple reason is that there isn't a market for it. If there were, we would see it.

Not even just piss-poor quality, much of our clothing is actually poisoning us with PFAS and microplastics.

In that sense it's rather similar to triumphantly holding up Big Macs as evidence of the modern food industry being awesome actually. Is it relatively cheaper to fill your stomach than at most other points in history? Sure, but at what cost? There is a debate to be had about whether being stuffed with unhealthy levels of fat/salt/sugar is worth the low price and accessibility, but it would be disingenuous in the extreme to pretend that someone opposed to the existence of McDonald's and the like just "hates efficiency" or wants to "gatekeep" food.

Thank god for those Pakistani children sewing them for you, huh?

You realize that you can buy clothes that weren't sewn by Pakistani children right? And it still costs less than $8000/yr?

There used to be a social contract, but now there are so many people that it's a problem that there is no work for the displaced. The leverage between the very small number of people with vast amounts of capital and a large number of people with very little capital or leverage - this is a societal dynamic that has existed before in the world. There is historical precedent for this, and it's probably worth paying very close attention to what comes next if you are a very wealthy person pushing against all forms of wealth redistribution.

> LaGuardia did have a fully staffed ATC

According to whom? Management, or controllers?

Certainly does not seem like controllers agree:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ATC/


Lasers are not "all weather" weapons as far as I am aware. Clouds, snow, fog, rain, and just humidity all degrade their performance greatly.

The recently announced "Golden Dome" project intends to get around this issue by putting a vast constellation of satellites into orbit. Each satellite would likely need a serious source of power in order to use its laser. Assuming that's just an engineering problem, then the issue becomes coverage. That is, depending on the adversary's capabilities, you'd need an absolutely massive constellation in orbit [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_s...


This is such an insane plan, and I don't mean that in a good way.

For one thing, it can do little to nothing about low flying nuclear tipped cruise missiles, especially in less than ideal weather. These already exist, so the Golden Dome system is already inadequate on day one.


The idea has been around for a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_s...

> President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing the United States Armed Forces to construct the [...] Golden Dome

Well, that's just taking the piss!


The linked article covers that in depth, it's not implausible to punch a hole through a storm with pulsed laser of that class. Honestly we don't know enough about these systems to know their operational limits but we know weather will play a role.

It seems like it’s chronically behind though. One example, last I checked /btw only worked via CLI.

I agree it is behind - but usually only a few days.

I'm a big fan of the VS Code add-in. Despite the current narrative that IDEs are dead, I find the ability to look at multiple things at once is works much better in some kind of.. GUI editing tool.. than just using a terminal.


that's why I ultimately ended with CC terminal in VSCode. best of both worlds for me

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