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Good riddance. American taxpayers were likely funding the bill for these elitist organizations. The world has moved on.


America was likely forced to pay the bill for these elitist organizations. Good riddance


So absolutely no one involved will have any repercussions. So they will all do it over again at the next opportunity


> they will all do it over again at the next opportunity

Future tense?


They are mega-corporations. They always do what ever the hell they want, certainly absent your input. Did you really believe they don't do what ever they want, because that's pretty damned naive.


yeah, 2025 in a nutshell. The year of letting all the grifts thrive.


What should the punishment be for having opinions the govt disagrees with?


Promoting medical misinformation or even health misinformation should be critically judged. Alternative health companies are rubbing their hands together.

The next Drain-o chug challenge "accident" is inevitable, at this rate.


That sounds great in theory. In practice, "misinformation" ends up being defined as anything the govt finds inconvenient. Or it is selectively applied so that when misinformation comes from all sides of the political spectrum, only people the govt doesnt like (in the more general sense) get kicked off platforms.


What is considered "misinformation" depends on whatever the censoring authority in question (e.g. Facebook or YouTube or some news website) _believes_ to be misinformation.

For example, in 2020, the WHO(!) Twitter account literally tweeted that masks don't work. That same statement would have been considered medical misinformation by a different authority.

Another example: the theory that Covid leaked from a lab in Wuhan which was known to do gain of function experiments on coronaviruses was painted as a wacky conspiracy theory by most of the mainstream media, despite the fact that many respectable sources (e.g. the CIA) later concluded that it has a significant amount of plausibility versus the alternative Wuhan wet market hypothesis which required that the virus somehow arrived there from a bat cave more than a thousand kilometres away.


Notoriety


Yep..and fame, admiration, contempt, loathing, indifference etc


So now we know the reality. An employer, Disney, felt an employee, Kimmel, was damaging their business, let's not forget the point of an employee is to make money for their employer, and as a result took corrective action with the employee. Who was not fired. If a waiter at a restaurant was offending the customers, he would have been fired. Kimmel was treated very kindly and will continue to receive his paycheck. Looks like the wailing about free speech missed the mark


You left out the part where a government official all but demanded they do what they did.


Must have been a VERY strong demand for Disney to completely ignore it.


Irrelevant. You were arguing this was an ordinary part of business, and the point is that it clearly isn’t.

Now you’re moving on to how much it matters that the government made such a demand. It matters very much, because it is unprecedented and outrageous. But I was only replying to your partial account, which left out the most crucial aspect of the entire affair.


> It matters very much, because it is unprecedented and outrageous

It isn't unprecedented, Biden administration did that as well. This is normal for the US government, they never were strict with free speech they always pressured corporations to censor.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponizati...


Anything equivalent to “We can do this the easy way or the hard way” said to a TV network by the official who can withdraw their licence to broadcast?


Companies are driven by profits, but their decisions are usually based on legalities. I think their knee-jerk reaction to pull Kimmel was due to what might happen, or what the government was threatening to do. That doesn't amount to damages, legally. However, if they bring Kimmel back, and the government follows through on its initial threats, then that does amount to damages for which they can sue the government.


I'm sure Disney is aware that there will be consequences to reinstating Kimmel. Maybe their proposed merger won't go through. Maybe something else—but they will be punished by the administration for it.


They didn't ignore it. The show was suspended for several days. Over some really tame remarks. The warning is pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.


More accurately,

now we have another take on the story, this time the crafted PR spin from Disney retconned for damage control.


Disney was probably inundated with demands from other on air talent to reinstate the employee. They then made the calculated judgment that maintaining good employee relations was on balance better served by putting the employee back on the assembly line. This is all usual and standard business. Anyone on here that has ever worked a job has contract that says what they can and cannot do while in the employ of the company.


People absolutely have the right to self identify in public as a person who accepts corporate PR statements as objective reality.

It's not for everyone, but each to their own.


Even if a man is dying of cancer that does not justify the government murdering him.

The Trump appointed FCC head, who is currently evaluating multiple multi-billion dollar requests, said about Kimmel 'we can do this the hard way or we can do this the easy way'.


Land of the free, home of the brave? Ring a bell?


A little late on this story, it all happened last year and the years before. Inflation is a monetary phenomenon, when the govt floods the world with free money, the price of goods goes up.


Get ready for statist backlash.


Just look at the title.. "Solar executives warn..". Of course they do, their business model is government subsidy. I live in a blue state that has decided to bet on renewables and our electricity rates are skyrocketing. If solar was viable, it would not require forcing tax payers to fund these businesses.


> If solar was viable, it would not require forcing tax payers to fund these businesses.

This is not true. Solar and wind are already cheaper than fossil fuel generation for new capacity. Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/wind-and-solar-en...


So then removing the subsidies shouldn't be an issue?


It's not just subsidies, it's also permitting and any other roadblocks they can manage. This isn't just economic or political, it's a weird personal crusade.


If it was only the subsidies, but it's not.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-orders-orsted-ha...


It shouldn’t. Trump is using environmental regulation to block projects. It’s crazy seeing the GOP embrace San Francisco’s last decade of policy.


"'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."


Whatever cost it is, I highly doubt it's cheaper to cancel projects that are well underway without recouping any benefits at all, in some cases over the objections of local customers, without an alternative in place with environmental and financial analysis to support it.

Otherwise you're just burning money without an alternative to meet increasing demand (which is likely why costs are increasing and why the additional supply is being built).


If fossil fuels were viable, they would not require the right to put toxic substances into my lungs without compensation.


It doesn't. Solar is ridiculously cheap and requires no subsidy at all to be profitable.

If this is happening (which frankly I doubt) it's just corruption.


If this were true, then wouldn’t every electricity supplier be building tons of solar, regardless of what the government does?


93% of new energy generation is renewable.

Nobody wants a new coal or nuclear plant in their back yard.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5319056/trump-clean-ene...


As JumpCrisscross said, they really are. Look at solar deployments across the planet.

They do need planning permission of course and that's where they can be blocked.


I see that now, thanks. So much for all that freedom.


> wouldn’t every electricity supplier be building tons of solar, regardless of what the government does?

They are. And it’s undercutting the owners of pricier plants. Hence Trump using environmental regulation to block more solar.


Land of the free, home of the brave gets funnier and funnier.


Well, not in California where there is both a residential solar mandate assuring new distributed supply and where solar already reaches over 100% of demand at peak; adding new utility-scale solar doesn't make a lot of sense even if it is cheap.


If solar is "ridiculously cheap" (per GGP) and California has abundant supply of it, why does electricity in major cities in California (see e.g. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APUS49B72610) cost several times what it does in Toronto, Ontario (https://www.oeb.ca/consumer-information-and-protection/elect... , and note these prices are in CAD)?


Politics and corruption. The generation cost is low, but the government backed monopoly folds all kinds of distribution, deferred maintenance, fire damage, and political pet projects into the retail price. It sucks.


According to the article Trump is trying to ban new solar developments. Suppliers are building tons of solar but they can't do so if the government makes it illegal.


But the Biden administration which introduced the IRA subsidies also jacked up tariffs on solar panels, increasing the price of these projects. Would many of these businesses been viable if neither subsidies nor tariffs had been introduced? Given the declining cost of PVs over time, would they have become viable eventually?


Monero is the last refuge of freedom in the monetary system. Its a beautiful replacement for cash, a true work of art


Yeah, and that's also why regulators are making it harder and harder to acquire Monero (if you come from fiat), at least in the EU.


Isn't this the group that had the not that monitored chats and would warn on any use of language that was insufficiently adherent to the woke paradigm?


Perhaps you should use the internet and find out before asking questions that are stupendously biased.


Absolutely correct. The only reason to resists transparency and accountability is if you have something to hide. The american public is smart enough to know that you don't make a $200,000 per year salary and amass a wealth of multi millions. It was a fun ride for the inside while it lasted, its time to move on now.


I believe we are at the end of the line for the concept of "fact checking". The statement "These Wildfires are Caused by California’s Mismanagement of Forest Lands" is qualitative, there is no true or false to that. Gov Newsom may believe they did a wonderful job, others may disagree. But certainly when one side says and any dissenting view is a "LIE" that is a good marker that they are trying to shut down open discussion because they have something to hide. Not a good look in the middle of a crisis to be shutting down dialog. Let the voters decide if the current government did a good job or mismanaged, but to say that disagreement with current power structures is a LIE does not work anymore.


> The statement "These Wildfires are Caused by California’s Mismanagement of Forest Lands" is qualitative, there is no true or false to that.

There is absolutely a true or false with that.

Did the fires start in an area that is considered forest? If so, was it on publicly managed land?

The statement wholly puts blame into the hands of the government, and that can be true or false.

Personally, I don't know the details to say if it is true or false. I'm just pointing out that there is a factual element to the statement.


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