They also sell a license with the new hardware. The bulk majority of the public never buy hardware without an OS. So yes, they are making more money with each new hardware sale. Plus the increase of forced advertising means they make more per user, effectively double dipping.
Why do you feel the need to defend a convicted monopolist for engaging in user hostile behavior?
As an American who usually gets mistaken for a Canadian while traveling, I know that some of us know they aren’t talking about us, but also that the people who they are talking about aren’t even in the conversation.
It’s effectively talking about people behind their back which is not that useful.
Netflix a wild one to include in that list, imo. What makes you think it's on the same level? If you're making some reference to "cultural importance" I would wager that ABC/CBS in the 90s had just as strong a pull as Netflix does today culturally.
> I don't mind things like huge cooling towers or massive dams.
^That’s not “cherry picking.“ They are saying the two things that they would not mind seeing in the distance. It is reasonable to assume that it was not an omission to avoid hurting their point, but rather that coal power smoke stacks are not on list.
It strikes me as the much more obvious reading. “Of the things you listed, these two don’t really bother me.”
I read the original comment by ACCount37 in the same way Forbo and BolexNOLA did - that ACCount37 is fine with cooling towers or dams, but not with coal stacks. This is a fully reasonable interpretation, considering the comment they were responding to explicitly listed those 3 examples; had they not been so explicit, it might be more reasonable to interpret it as simply not having an opinion on items not listed, but that isn't the case.
And since you're so keen on pointing out that this is public: you don't come off looking very great. Might wanna work on that.
We need you to avoid perpetuating or escalating flamewars on HN. Energy/climate topics are among the most predictable flamebait topics, and as a longtime user we need to see you being circumspect and making your contributions de-escalatory rather than escalatory. We've had to ask you several times before respect the site's guidelines and purpose. Please try harder.
You and I can disagree about interpretation all day long but there’s no misinterpreting your incredibly condescending tone. Have a good rest of your Sunday man.
Call it what you want, either way it was rude and unnecessary.
As for your point: If that’s what he’s doing then he’s doing a piss poor job because several of us clearly heard an implied “but not coal fire plant smoke stacks” while he said infrastructure for renewables on the skyline can be pretty.
They have a much better reputation that most companies. I think they're doing okay compared to google, facebook, oracle, etc. Few people are going to think a corp is "doing good" but reputation does still matter somewhat.
You're confusing your opinion of the company with the perception by the general public. Apple's definitely not perceived as 'an office appliance company' by your average person. It's considered a high-end luxury brand by many[1].
I think their public sales data shows Apple sells mainly to consumers, and mainly iPhones at that.
Like 1980s SONY, they are the top of the line consumer electronics giant of the time. The iPhone is even more successful than the Walkman or Trinitron TVs.
They also sell the most popular laptops,to consumers as well as corporate. Like SONY’s VAIO but more popular again.
Ah, I see where we went wrong here, you never specified that you meant reputation in your mind only. FYI, “reputation” is usually considered to be related to a general public opinion, not your personal one.
Edit: I mistook the bsky.sh domain, my bad. Can't get strike through to work for the life of me. I give up.
~~Bluesky blocked in Mississippi, try to work around it, only for the resource that tells you how to do this to be hosted on Bluesky, which is blocked. That's... suboptimal~~.
I can't help but feel like Bluesky is just three corporations in a trenchcoat pretending to be an open federated ecosystem.
Yes, it is the case today. Its not a huge proportion, but there are thousands on external servers, and we recently had a nice sized migration to blacksky
> globohomo
Yeah, no, fuck that bigoted bullshit and the people who made it.