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Mastodon does not solve the problem stated above. In Nostr you don't have to be jumping from instance to instance and losing all your stuff every time in the process.

Mastodon is clearly inferior to Nostr when it comes to having a decentralized identity.


Nostr isn't aimed at content blocked or censored.

Relays also don't host media, it's meant for text-based comms.


Well HN is text-based as well yet...

iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEWbueItP/xuAAAACklEQVQI12NgAAAAAgAB4iG8MwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==


"That doesn't look like anything to me"


You can build software on protocols like this.

Your analogy fails at the mere fact that no physical harm can result from Nostr not solving this one thing you think is 100% necessary.

The fact that Nostr is up and running and working is the undeniable fact that you don't NEED to solve every single problem known to humankind before you write some lines of code.


> You can build software on protocols like this.

I've never denied this. You can also DIY a go-kart and drive it on an open road.

> Your analogy fails at the mere fact that no physical harm can result from Nostr not solving this one thing you think is 100% necessary.

Notice how you've specifically used the term "physical harm" to differentiate from other forms of harm. Harm is harm.

> The fact that Nostr is up and running and working is the undeniable fact that you don't NEED to solve every single problem known to humankind before you write some lines of code.

...Where did I try to deny this? My analogy is very specific in that you can do all of these things, and with enough luck, nothing bad will happen.

The problem with luck is that it doesn't scale well, especially on the open road. I mean, Internet.


Software protocols aren't going to prevent the government from using physical force to will you into obedience.

Not sure what you expect?


The AUTH Nostr Implementation Possibility is not mandatory. You can choose to use it or not, it's not all or nothing. Every single NIP except for NIP-01 is optional.


I wonder what the XMPP camp is up to these days


I sense there was probably some irony in your post. Nevertheless, I'll bite :)

The "XMPP camp" is doing well and very busy: https://xmpp.org/newsletter/

We're lacking a nostr bridge if anyone wants to work on that...


The spec doesn't say relays SHALL NOT talk to each other. YOU made that up. It says they don't talk to each other but it is not prevented.

You can mirror one relay to another easily:

echo '["REQ", "mirror" ,{}]' | websocat wss://source | jq -del '.[1]' | websocat wss://dest


> It says they don't talk to each other but it is not prevented

No protocol can prevent a piece of software from doing whatever they want.

The "shall not" is not absolute: the spec assumes and expects relays not to talk to each other. Nothing prevents you from creating a relay that connects to another relay, of course, but that would not be in the spirit of what Nostr is trying to achieve.


We do have borderless payments and the technology is here. You argue facts with feelings. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t there!


My point is precisely that we do have the technology, so I don't know what you're trying to say.


Could you stop? I’m surprised you aren’t banned


I've been in it for months! I kind of want everything to be rebuilt on top of Nostr. It's not meant to solve every problem, and some things that people say it must have are really "good to have", proof of that is that people are using it without any of that being available.


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