Playing the opposite game with all recommendations from China and the WHO would have been a good start. I think responsibility and fear of discovery are at the core of how crucial information was suppressed and distorted leading to nonsensical actions like the SF rally for Chinatown in late February 2020.
Part of this has resolved itself since every piece of information is no longer being evaluated on whether it helps or hurts Trump.
1. We don't have enough pharma industry to manufacture our own supply. The founder and CEO of the largest Canada HQ'd pharma company was assassinated in 2017 and I'm sure that didn't help.
2. All of the U.S. supply was essentially created under the Trump admin. We were having a mini trade war and enforcing strong border control through that time. In more normal times we probably would have piggybacked on the American supply.
I think that is why our overall progress is more comparable to Europe and not the US.
The idea is hypothetical but they seem to believe it. There does seem to be a pathetic lack of interest in the virus itself, with so much focus on 2nd and 3rd order effects.
By the way, recently discovered you can get some of these shortcuts in all input boxes by activating “emacs shortcuts” inside of gnome-tweaks! Was one of the final blockers for getting me from Mac to Linux
A 15 minute test could be more easily done before boarding a flight for example.
I'm not sure if it is really necessary either but mentally I'm at the point where I think we should just fire all available bullets at this thing, as they become available.
I think where you are going with pre-flight testing. Even if we get numbers way down by containment measures like a complete shut down, the virus will still be there and we will need to very actively test and trace (see below article). For that to work, fast test will be invaluable. Testing everyone who is traveling or going to large events or even better just going to a grocery store would really help to get back to something that's somewhat normal without having to shut everything down again periodically or losing millions of people in the process.
If you had a plane with 200 passengers and two machines at the gate, this would take an additional 25 minutes to board the flight to test everyone, assuming there is no prep, which I’m sure there is. So realistically probably an hour.
It seems like a great idea in theory, but in practice? I’m not so sure.
Considering you can have the disease and present no symptoms but be contagious, you’d have to test everyone. I guess it is better than nothing in some cases.
Are you joking? This test could be done in less than the time it took me to take off my belt, my shoes, half my clothes, then empty my pockets, then pose for the body scanner, then get the wand, then the pat down, then recover my belongings and re-dress. That was my last experience at the airport.
You're complaining that a 15 minute covid test is just too much?
I am not complaining. I'm speculating on the usefulness of thi s given that there is already a fair bit of overhead with boarding a plane in 2020 as opposed to say getting on a train.
There are a LOT of flights that happen each day, If you add up all the time combined, this would actually add a bit of overhead to an already rather long airport check-in process.
Not to mention the obvious which is that, if flights are still running at full pace, well you still have a lot of potentially infected people gathering in a rather confined area (airport), which is not really a good idea anyway.
This is obviously useful for something like triaging at a hospital, will wee see it at a check-in gate or at a bus stop? I doubt it.
Also that's clearly a lie it will take less time than for you to take off your belt, it clearly says it takes up to 15 minutes for a result. Don't talk nonsense.
Just two words: cost and benefit can help you to understand the value behind quicker tests.
Flights are getting cancelled already, and some countries closed their airports at all. There are places where you can get stuck at a border crossing, or a roadblock if you have no proof of a recent medical checks. On this background any tests which add 15 min, or even 1 hr overhead sounds more like a solution, not a problem.
No after thinking about it, I think @bamboozled is right. Testing everyone trying to board a flight, or cross a roadblock is not a feasible use case for this device. They will not be used like this. It isn’t a magic wand you can wave, there is a real bottleneck at the hardware level.
It’s not 15 mins from the time you get swabbed. It’s 15 once it’s prepared and put in the machine. Then there will be cleanup time after. Either way, even if you could run them through assembly line style every 15 minutes, 1 machine would take a whole 24 hours to process 100 people.
Another commenter @nkrumm pointed out multiple good use cases. I think they will be used to allow health care workers to make rapid decisions, for specific patients, likely in emergency situations. Not to process large volumes.
If 7500 people land in Sydney tomorrow (I think that’s the real number about to enter mandatory quarantine) even in the best case scenario using one machine without considering preparation time it will take around 1875 hours to process everyone. Around 18 hours for ten machines running, even then, that’s without prep time.
That’s a pretty long customs line.
To add to that, at a accuracy rate of 99% there will be about 75 people who will go through with the wrong diagnosis unless retests are done, which will add extra time. I really don’t see this working out at that scale.
You’d really need a sub 60 second test for this to scale.
Not sure, if you are following the news really. If there will be no possibility to check 7500, then 7500 will not be allowed. It's easy as that. Nobody will scale tests to a number of arrivals, its number of arrivals which will be scaled down. And possibility to test quickly may allow thin stream of visitors, and/or shorter quarantine terms for them.
Depending on how many people are waiting with you and how many machines they have running in parallel, it may still take two weeks for you to be cleared.
Better than nothing, but I wouldn't get too excited yet.
It’s just not what these machines are meant for clearly. The headline is catchy, but these are clearly not meant for processing huge volumes. That’s what a big lab is for. They can process huge amounts of samples in parallel.
These are for on the spot, emergency or very urgent, situations where particular patients care decisions will be determined by a rapid result.
There are DNA based virus detection techniques that take fragments of DNA of unknown origin and compare them to a database of known bad stuff. So I think it could allow people that have the ability to sequence DNA to identify this virus if they have, for example, a patient.
Airlines sell tickets in advance, so hedging will allow them to match their near-future fuel prices to the ticket prices they're selling now. They consume fuel but don't produce it, so I don't think they can fully balance things out over time internally.
edit: I see this was mentioned already in the thread.
Classroom morality: the behaviors that make the teacher's day easier and get good grades.
Playground morality: the behaviors that make a kid popular and respected by the other children.
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This Nietzsche is interesting and it hit me like a slap in the face when I first encountered it, but the most fleshed out and vivid form of this type of thinking is Ribbonfarm Gervaise Principle articles.
Uniswap: https://uniswap.org/audit.html
Sushi Swap: https://github.com/peckshield/publications/blob/master/audit...
Alpaca Finance (high complexity in my opinion): https://docs.alpacafinance.org/transparency
A lot of projects provide their source and you can verify that what you're interacting with matches the source.