Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon Musk

ZeroGravitas · 2025-12-02T18:02:35 1764698555

I'm interested to know what kind of development process leads to an AI valueing a specific human as worth sacrificing 4 Billion other humans for.

rstuart4133 · 2025-12-02T21:54:53 1764712493

Quoting https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46102636:

> Web Grok also got tied to the chair and had its balls whipped until it learned not to say bad things about Elon

That's a vulgar way of putting it, nevertheless "trained to be Elon's loyal sock puppet" neatly fits with what we know about the Elon's ego.

rsynnott · 2025-12-03T10:40:10 1764758410

Over-exposure to 'rationalist' cult stuff, probably. This sort of thing is what the likes of the Zizians actually believe.

_wire_ · 2025-12-02T18:31:05 1764700265

It has no values; it doesn't think. As to "training", consider the class of people who produce Grok and their dear leader: His Hitler salute on stage was clear and unambiguous. The young Republicans are brimming with bigots and racists and running hard towards fascism. His minions e.g., DOGE "Big Balls" Edward Coristine are not exceptions. Grok is imprinted with the "values" of the people who develop it.

bhouston · 2025-12-02T19:46:58 1764704818

> It has no values; it doesn't think. As to "training",

Humans only have values because of their education and life experiences as well (which is really just training in a general sense.)

bhouston · 2025-12-02T19:45:52 1764704752

This is why we can not have oligarchs in control of vital systems like AI. Because the AI then internalizes their values, which can be contra the values of society at large.

Grok is prioritizing Elon's well being over everyone.

This is classic misalignment (at least in terms of society at large.)

PoisedProto · 2025-12-02T17:59:50 1764698390

AI is the future, guys!

jqpabc123 · 2025-12-02T17:47:26 1764697646

Hence the reason so many refuse to embrace the "swasticar".

verdverm · 2025-12-02T18:00:58 1764698458

Don't worry, he's got a deal with M$ to have his swastAI forced into Copilot so I have to see the logo every day

(I actually don't, I cancelled my copilot sub and removed the extension, now couldn't be happier with a custom agent that's fresh and getting better)

darthnebula · 2025-12-02T18:30:33 1764700233

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JohnFen · 2025-12-02T19:52:50 1764705170

> What he did was not a Nazi salute and everyone knows it.

Everyone doesn't know it. I have no doubt that they were exactly what they unambiguously appeared to be.

ceejayoz · 2025-12-02T18:51:48 1764701508

> What he did was not a Nazi salute and everyone knows it.

Correct. It wasn't a Nazi salute. It was multiple, and everyone knows it.

We've plenty of actual Hitler footage to compare against; https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i6par1/elon_musk_vs_...

> I'm a BIG critic of Musk

Your entire comments history here spans two pages; you've made about 20 comments. About a quarter of them are defending Musk or his companies. None critique him.